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    Here's my vote, which provides a nice alternative to the current SWJ logo

    Supporting "time-limited, scope limited military actions" for 20 years.

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    There is also a message for the media in there.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv5m4...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob's World View Post
    The scotch and the Oreos are proven commodities, will be happy to join you for both.
    Scotch, yes; Oreos, no. I have to admit, I shudder at the juxtaposition !

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    As to the book, I'm not so sure. I'm mentally composing a piece tentatively titled: "Zombie COIN - Why FM 3-24 has no Soul"

    ("Soul" being an understanding of insurgency itself. Ok, couldn't help myself, still sitting at the airport...)
    Oh, Gods..... GET IT WRITTEN NOW!!!!!!!!! Seriously, Bob, I've already got one of your papers on the required reading list, but I want that!!!!!

    Personally, I'd take an image of a trooper, put a media guys on his back, an NGO person on their back, and a politician on top of them and sub-title it "The modern, agile soldier". Then again, I've been told I have a low sense of humour... .
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    Quote Originally Posted by marct View Post
    Oh, Gods..... GET IT WRITTEN NOW!!!!!!!!! Seriously, Bob, I've already got one of your papers on the required reading list, but I want that!!!!!
    Ditto, sir. Why do you think we take the time to critique you? Consider it free editing and peer review.

    Preach it Brother Bob. Preach! Pastor done told me that I need some saving on my soul .

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    In Dear John (yes I watched it. If you didn't, then you got your own issues). Anyways, in Dear John, there was a great scene when the Green Beret was patting an indigenous soldier on the shoulder as he was executing a task. I thought that scene summed up small wars perfectly.

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    Zombie COIN. Sounds like something in the vein of this book.
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    Slap just nailed it.

    See first. Understand first. Act first.

    Done.

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    A scrimmage in a Border Station
    A canter down some dark defile
    Two thousand pounds of education
    Drops to a ten-rupee jezail


    http://i.imgur.com/IPT1uLH.jpg

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    How about something that symbolizes service members, government officials, NGOs and academics working together? Maybe have all four of them circled in a war zone, talking?

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    An image that that symbolizes modern war?
    I can't resist:



    (I know McChrystal shut it down, but the KFC is opening and Timmies is still there)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    How about something that symbolizes service members, government officials, NGOs and academics working together? Maybe have all four of them circled in a war zone, talking?
    http://iraqslogger.powweb.com/images...3879985_10.jpg

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    The Kandahar AFB Burger King is a great idea to include, BK's lawyers might disagree though...so maybe a generic burger sign over the "Swiss town square" somewhere.

    I also like the image of all the service members, NGO types, Academics and assorted USG folks together playing poker....

    Who should be included in the academics at the epicenter of this piece?
    Nagl, Gentile, Kilcullen, Petraeus, Crocker, Exum...

    McChrystal? Mattis?
    Who else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Sea View Post
    I also like the image of all the service members, NGO types, Academics and assorted USG folks together playing poker....

    Who should be included in the academics at the epicenter of this piece?
    Nagl, Gentile, Kilcullen, Petraeus, Crocker, Exum...

    McChrystal? Mattis?
    Who else?
    It may be interesting to note, that this is the SWJ Town Square Scene, NOT the "New COIN" Town Square. Only Gian Gentile actually participates here and he is not one of the COIN boys. I'm here because most of the views here are very sceptical of COIN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William F. Owen View Post
    It may be interesting to note, that this is the SWJ Town Square Scene, NOT the "New COIN" Town Square. Only Gian Gentile actually participates here and he is not one of the COIN boys. I'm here because most of the views here are very sceptical of COIN.
    What other COIN skeptics should be included?

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    Why just fixate on current events? This isn't the SWJ Current Conflicts Town Square, either. Small Wars are timeless in so many ways (and will most likely remain so until Wilf can impose his war dictatorship that only allows major state-on-state refereed events....). You could have a bemused member of Marius' Mules resting on his pilum and looking at his modern counterpart (a Marine, perhaps, with his 100lb+ 'combat load'). Behind them could be a member of Mackenzie's Fourth Cavalry kitted out for campaign, and the ubiquitous "Red Coat" fitted for an extended patrol in India or Afghanistan. Scouts and auxiliaries from all eras could be shown brewing coffee around a fire, waiting for the large state troops to get their acts in gear.

    The idea of small wars transcends eras, no matter how much doctrinal bickering may currently surround them.
    "On the plains and mountains of the American West, the United States Army had once learned everything there was to learn about hit-and-run tactics and guerrilla warfare."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Blair View Post
    Why just fixate on current events? This isn't the SWJ Current Conflicts Town Square, either. Small Wars are timeless in so many ways ...The idea of small wars transcends eras, no matter how much doctrinal bickering may currently surround them.
    Which brings up an interesting point...Should historical figures like Che or Giap be included in this particular illustration?

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    Giap would be a candidate for sure. Che already has his own t-shirt.
    "On the plains and mountains of the American West, the United States Army had once learned everything there was to learn about hit-and-run tactics and guerrilla warfare."
    T.R. Fehrenbach This Kind of War

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Blair View Post
    Giap would be a candidate for sure. Che already has his own t-shirt.
    Point taken about Che...
    But I suppose that the illustration is about counterinsurgents, not insurgents...So I retract my suggestion about Giap. Otherwise the illustration would have to include Mao, Sandino, Aguinaldo, OBL, etc.

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    How about the picture of Che on the morgue slab it was published in a lot of papers back in the day.

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