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    The article in the initial post calls for the left wing of the Democratic Party to fight back more vigorously against Obama's middle-of-the-road policies. It isn't the usual call to arms from the Minuteman/Tea Party crowd.

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    Default Nor does it have anything to with Small Wars

    or even warfare in general. The initial op-ed is pure political foolishness.
    "Throughout the nation there is outrage in the land, revolution in the air, insurrection in the wind from the left, right and center. The political ground is shaking from gale-force winds of a national demand for powerful change in the way our corrupted and tone-deaf capital does business."
    Sheesh, creative writing at its campiest. Our Capital has been tone deaf all my life and until we start voting out all incumbents and get rid of political parties, it'll remain that way. Robert's polemic is dumber than a box of hammers.

    On that last link, the Great East Point Riot, I'm sure the left will make a big deal out of it. Out of little or nothing; "Yet no arrests were made." (LINK). I lived in Atlanta for 12 years. East Point was a minor tinder box the whole time and has remained such. The various housing authorities in the Atlanta area have been and are a bed of consistent corruption. Housing authorities nationwide have problems; to be expected when dumb Congroids promise more than we can afford or deliver...

    The Son who's an Atlanta metro area cop has a slew of tales about political shenanigans there and in Georgia Generally. The other two, the Soldat in the northeast and the Cop on the west coast also have a bunch from their regions. So does the NC Grandson in Law. Not to mention mine from here in Floridada. The point -- Flawed politics and tone deaf politicians are not restricted to DC, not by a long shot. They just make the national news easier and provide media and pundit fodder.

    The Sky is Falling, 2010 Summer Edition. Penalty of being old: it's at least the thirtieth or maybe the fortieth time that I've seen our immediate demise from internal dissent, riots, militias, etc. etc. -- and fiscal ineptitude -- predicted ...

    Oh, well, I'm still making plans for my Great Grandson's arrival and setting up a College savings account for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
    Nor does it have anything to [do] with Small Wars or even warfare in general.
    One could say that about many threads here.... But I agree, the op-ed is pretty much speculation on par with Fallout III. Except that Fallout has better graphics...
    "On the plains and mountains of the American West, the United States Army had once learned everything there was to learn about hit-and-run tactics and guerrilla warfare."
    T.R. Fehrenbach This Kind of War

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Blair View Post
    One could say that about many threads here.... But I agree, the op-ed is pretty much speculation on par with Fallout III. Except that Fallout has better graphics...

    Thats why I posted it under "The Whole News". The parameters of the thread topics are "Post and debate the news; good,bad and ugly. News ignored by the mainstream especially welcomed here"

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
    Thats why I posted it under "The Whole News". The parameters of the thread topics are "Post and debate the news; good,bad and ugly. News ignored by the mainstream especially welcomed here"
    I know, slap. Not complaining...just commenting on the story.
    "On the plains and mountains of the American West, the United States Army had once learned everything there was to learn about hit-and-run tactics and guerrilla warfare."
    T.R. Fehrenbach This Kind of War

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Blair View Post
    I know, slap. Not complaining...just commenting on the story.
    Wasn't really for you, it chopped off the part by ken White which was supposed to be included you know how those old folks are, nothing has changed since the first revolution he will be back I am sure.
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    Talking "Oh, a lot has changed...

    ...and not much of it for the danged better." He said, grumpily in his hoarse old voice...

    [The fact that small 'l' liberals don't agree with small 'c' conservatives and that "the world is going to the Devil in a hand basket" being things that have not changed much at all since 1782. Amazing that we're still here...]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken White View Post
    or even warfare in general. The initial op-ed is pure political foolishness.Sheesh, creative writing at its campiest.
    Could not agree more

    Our Capital has been tone deaf all my life and until we start voting out all incumbents and get rid of political parties
    Right. Like that'll happen.

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    Latest interview by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, includes comments on Iran.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIPoZ...eature=related

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    Default Dr. Paul Craig Roberts On Why We Need A Revolution

    Dr. Paul Craig Roberts "The Ecstasy Of Empire" or how we need a new kind of Revolution to Tax Corporations oversees profits that out source American jobs.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=20650

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    That's unlikely to work out well.

    The U.S. is already an exception with its taxing of income generated by its citizens abroad.
    A German doesn't need to pay German income tax if he lives (=60% or more of the year) in Monaco, for example.


    It's more important to generate jobs anyway.
    Think of a tax on international phone services. Call centre jobs would need to be moved to domestic locations and reliably put hundreds of thousands of unskilled people in labour.

    Or end the structural nonsense of the financial sector ripping off the industrial sector and its shareholders. You need roughly a fourth more industrial output to meet your material consumption level. East Asians won't deliver goods for mere promises forever - sometime they'll demand a real payment and you don't want to experience a drop of a fifth of goods consumption in your society. That would be about twice as grave as the recent crisis and it would probably break much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
    we need a new kind of Revolution to Tax Corporations oversees profits that out source American jobs.
    There is no such thing as an "American job". A job is only yours, as an individual or as a nation, if you can perform the function more efficiently than the other guy. If you penalize American enterprises by forcing them to hire less efficient labor, the enterprise goes out of business and produces no jobs at all.

    Sure, you can force American corporations to produce at home. The product will be too expensive to sell, nobody will buy it, and the jobs disappear anyway. Not a solution. Protectionism never is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayuhan View Post
    There is no such thing as an "American job". A job is only yours, as an individual or as a nation, if you can perform the function more efficiently than the other guy. If you penalize American enterprises by forcing them to hire less efficient labor, the enterprise goes out of business and produces no jobs at all.

    Sure, you can force American corporations to produce at home. The product will be too expensive to sell, nobody will buy it, and the jobs disappear anyway. Not a solution. Protectionism never is.
    Pure Gobbsmackery, why is it every other country is allowed to engage in protectionism but we can't? China has a nationalized banking system that will provide any amount of money needed to allow it's industries to produce at below market rates in order for it to maintain a competitive advantage, and it also has a government policy of slave labor. You cannot defend against that without counter policies to protect our jobs (USA) and industries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayuhan View Post

    Sure, you can force American corporations to produce at home. The product will be too expensive to sell, nobody will buy it, and the jobs disappear anyway. Not a solution. Protectionism never is.
    Sure it is... tax imports... and make imports cost the same as locally made... then let the buyer choose.

    My mother in law uses paint brushes once, its cheaper and easier to buy new ones from China each time. My kid gets more toys a year than i had in my life, because they are all so cheap....

    We have become quantity consumers, not quality consumers.

    If prices became higher due to protectionism, I would be forced to look after my stuff more...

    Last week i went to the gym and forgot my Gym shoes. Instead of driving home to get them i bought a cheap pair at a shop next to the gym... Blush...

    20 Years ago shoes were worth something, kids did not discard toys after a week... and you cleaned paintbrushes... cheap imports change a lot...

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