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    AdamG,

    I would not always regard The Daily Mail as a reputable source of information. The February 2015 article when read relies on IIRC Italian intelligence officials and a lot of history, with photos. It also has a practice of accepting "spin" from agencies here.

    Have you found any update on the arms smuggling vessel the Greeks stopped in international waters in September 2015? Without an update it is an official allegation. Some photos would be persausive and criminal charges too.

    Elsewhere on SW Forum there has been a limited discussion on ISIS infiltrating Western Europe by placing their cadres within the mass of refugees.

    In the UK there are estimates by ICSR usually that at least half of thsoe who went to fight in Syria have returned, many of them without being officially detected. It is not clear who they fought for (my opinion is they are from the pre-ISIS period), nor what made them change their minds.

    Why risk cadres within the mass of refugees, who apparently are mainly being moved by criminal gangs for money? Often at risk from the gangs and being shipwrecked etc.
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    Most folks are cognizant of the "Daily Wail's" shortcomings but here ya go.

    http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/mon...e_1653210.html

    http://www.ilmessaggero.it/primopian.../1186106.shtml

    As for 'cadres', considering the phenomenal lack of skill shown by the Charlie Hebdo shooters or the bozo that got his ass beaten on the train at Arras, I think that term is excessively charitable.

    "Expendable True Believers" are perfect candidates to send across the Med to slaughter some Infidels and in this internet age, ISIS C4 assets don't need to be risked as long as their same little hackers we've seen to date are on the job.

    We've also already seen how the *real* ISIS cadre has no problem using volunteers as cannon fodder take positions from Assad's forces, so the perfectly logical extrapolation would find some with their bags packed wailing for the Euro media's cameras.

    As for the Haddad 1, updates aren't that hard to find but I'll oblige.

    Charges specified
    http://www.ekathimerini.com/201170/a...acked-haddad-1

    Current vessel location indicates that it's still moored.
    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/det...essel:HADDAD_1
    A scrimmage in a Border Station
    A canter down some dark defile
    Two thousand pounds of education
    Drops to a ten-rupee jezail


    http://i.imgur.com/IPT1uLH.jpg

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    File under "Perception Management" - Looks like ISIS flags to me
    A scrimmage in a Border Station
    A canter down some dark defile
    Two thousand pounds of education
    Drops to a ten-rupee jezail


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