General Petraeus: collection

[gute]

"Just Name Me a Hero and I'll Prove He's a Bum" - Pappy Boyington

[carl]

"Just Name Me a Hero and I'll Prove He's a Bum" - Pappy Boyington

He ought to have known. He looked at one in the mirror every day of his life.

It always pains me just a little that many people know who Boyington was but they don't know who Joe Foss, John Smith and Marion Carl were.

[gute]

He ought to have known. He looked at one in the mirror every day of his life.

I believe that was his point - last sentence of his autobiography.

[carl]

I believe that was his point - last sentence of his autobiography.

I think you are right and I stand corrected.

[slapout9]

Stop looking at the General and start looking at who benefits and that will lead you closer to the truth.

[davidbfpo]

I was wondering as a non-American observer whether anyone has commented in the US MSM on the implications for the CIA as an internationally active intelligence agency with partners?

Secondly, on the impact of such a resignation as a former general, with a till now intact reputation as a "winner".

Here we know that the CIA and the US military are far more than one man. And realise that human relationships matter, especially when one to one meetings are necessary.

[bourbon]

I was wondering as a non-American observer whether anyone has commented in the US MSM on the implications for the CIA as an internationally active intelligence agency with partners?

Haven't seen any such comments yet, David. I think our partners probably have strong opinions about our secret keeping ability, and this only reinforces such opinions.

I recall reading a book by a Cold War era DGSE chief who held a very poor opinion of the US governments ability to keep something secret.

[Ken White]

Stop looking at the General and start looking at who benefits and that will lead you closer to the truth.

You're a good cop...

[Polarbear1605]

...the game is afoot...and it smells of all politics...IMO

[carl]

Stop looking at the General and start looking at who benefits and that will lead you closer to the truth.

I am too dense to figure that. What do you mean?

[ganulv]

I am too dense to figure that. What do you mean?

It's like Lenin said, Carl.

[slapout9]

I am too dense to figure that. What do you mean?

The greatest chemical attack known to man is still.......CHANEL No.5

This is all still unfolding and more will come to light I imagine. But in the meantime the General has essentially been neutralized. No matter if he testifies about Benghazi or run for President in 2016.......he is now damaged goods. This smacks to much like a Political Operation for me to just believe it was spontaneous combustion. The General is a lightening rod and he is drawing and will draw tremendous heat for this. That gives a lot of Political cover for the WH with respect to many items on their agenda.

[Madhu]

....when it's stuff like this, the media chases down every single lead and is insatiable in its curiosity but when it comes to the following:

Was there a foreign government behind the 9/11 attacks? A decade later, Americans still haven’t been given the whole story, while a key 28-page section of Congress’s Joint Inquiry report remains censored.

it is like cricket's chirping except for a few stalwarts?

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...11-2011-201108

I am not making a partisan point or falling into conspiracy-mongering or anything of the sort. The very nature of the national security apparatus (think tanks, appointees civilian and military, academics of PhD or whatever variety, journalists, hangers-on, bloggers, tweeters) fascinates and appalls, confuses and disappoints.

11 years and basic questions unanswered, stories about celebrity instead of hard intellectual work and question asking, and even those that saw through the celebrity generals are just as clueless about influence agents that aren't a part of the American scene.

None of which excuses the behavior which is reckless and harmful.


Ugh. What a colossal waste of my time all this reading milblogs etc. has been. I know it's not true entirely but it feels like it.

[jmm99]

ABC News: Petraeus Affair: Who Is Jill Kelley?

A 3-page start on the Khawam sisters, Jill and Natalie.

Regards

Mike