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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    By a ret'd Indian intelligence officer:

    Link:http://www.sunday-guardian.com/analy...odis-attention
    Indeed. Any attempt to "Modi"fy Pakistan has to first start with neutering Pakistan-Saudi axis' attempts to create multiple Pakistans within India itself.

    As discussed (and now confirmed in this article) in my book Defeating Political Islam, this Islamization project has blossomed virtually unchecked for several decades now.

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    It is an incorrect and a most condescending remark to state that - The subcontinent also retains the power to screw things up on its own, although when they do somebody somewhere will invariably find a way to blame it on the US. Some things are inevitable.

    Suffice it to say, anyone who has an iota of knowledge of history and is not biased, will observe that whenever the colonial powers quit, they encouraged and then left a legacy for conflicts.

    That apart, the scars left behind by the colonials cannot be wished away pronto by any magic wand. It will take time and in the interim anything can happen and then return to normal. Of course, such events with give grist to gleeful condescensions again.

    There is no question of any country taming any other country. The very notion is a western concept of imposing superiority over others.

    In our parts, it is 'Live and Let Live' as much as possible, till nudged by 'global strategic interests' and that comes not from any specific sector either.

    Let us debate on issues and not on preconceived condescensions.

    Further, so long as there is the concept of 'minorities' and not looking at all as Indians, there can be no progress. Poverty, social inequalities etc are not solely the preserve of the so called minority. It manifests itself on all divisions of society. What has to be done is uplift the economically backward irrespective of religion. Then, and then only, can India progress.

    This minority bogey is a votebank tactics i.e. scare the minority against the majority and vice versa and ensure getting their votes.

    It might interest all that unless the minority (who has got wise to this Votebank manipulation)had not voted for Modi (hardline rightwing to the western folks), there was no shadow of hope that such a huge majority would come Modi's way.

    It is time for less condescensions and replace the same with serious analysis by poring into reports, and then be equipped to enjoy the smell of the coffee.

    In India we say Jago Mohan Pyare.

    If the subcontinent retains the power to screw things up on its own, I guess it is suggested that it is the subcontinent which has screwed Ukraine.

    For strategic interests, every nation screws thing up. It is not the copyright of any country or a region. Therefore, one should look before one leaps.

    In India and Pakistan, we have a saying - Hamam men sab nanga hai.
    Last edited by Ray; 05-26-2014 at 08:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    If the subcontinent retains the power to screw things up on its own, I guess it is suggested that it is the subcontinent which has screwed Ukraine.
    I did not suggest that the power to screw things up is in any way exclusive to the subcontinent. It is alive and well all over the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    For strategic interests, every nation screws thing up. It is not the copyright of any country or a region. Therefore, one should look before one leaps.
    That's exactly what I meant to suggest when I said the subcontinent has the power to screw things up on its own. That power may or may not be used, but it certainly exists. Being on the cynical side, I generally expect things to be screwed up, and I generally expect that somebody, somewhere (often here at SWC) will find some way to blame the US.

    One cannot downplay or eliminate the colonial legacy, nor can one reasonably attribute all things that go wrong to the colonial legacy.

    The appropriateness of the reference to "taming Pakistan" you'd have to take up with MoorthyM, who included it in the thread header.
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