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    Another nuclear threat being uttered by an official Russian rep. At some point the West has to take a stand on the nuclear question---is MAD any longer a valid concept in the 21st century???

    And the West truly thinks it can negotiate with Putin right now?--there is no basis of trust any longer in whatever he states and or does.

    It is about time the West starts defining and stating it's maximum demands for Putin to come back into the conversation.

    Russian ambassador: Russia will point its nuclear missiles at Danish fleet if Denmark joins NATO missile defense. http://m.jyllands-posten.dk/indland/...sk-atomangreb/

    Pro-Russian militants shelling Pisky, Shyrokyne at night
    http://www.unian.info/war/1058263-pr...-at-night.html … pic.twitter.com/PRWoIYlH8C

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    Russian forces attacked #Pisky 6 x with mortars overnight and tried to "penetrate Ukr territory" near #Opytne. pic.twitter.com/WV58yMangh

    At #Optyne RU attempted an offensive yday after shelling, a platoon supported by mortars attacked Ukr positions. Attack lasted 6hrs repelled

    Rus-backed militants are openly using cannon artillery/MRLS: used 2 Grads in area of Bakhmutka road, #Luhansk regionhttps://www.facebook.com/dmitry.tymc...67692860026039

    Dutch journalist @JeroenAkkermans has shared many new detailed #MH17 wreckage photographs https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/sets/ … pic.twitter.com/YD64vqMQkA

    #Russian-backed militants fired w/ 120mm mortars at Pisky, #Donetsk direction and Shyrokyne, #Mariupol direction https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/posts/968121399865333

    Putin getting ready for new large-scale advance...meanwhile West does nothing.... http://www.unian.info/war/1058202-pu...turchynov.html

    Subversive group made 2nd attempt to get into Ukr-controlled territory near Opytne, #Donetsk direction, was repelled https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/posts/968121399865333
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    Does anyone really believe the Minsk 2 ceasefire is working--maybe sit hould be called a "fighting ceasefire".

    Just an average ceasefire day today in the Ukraine:

    Russian-backed militants shelled Avdiivka, 1 civilian was killed - #ATO spox presser

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    SBU detained former servicemen in #Myrhorod who was a #DPR informer who gathered intel about UA military aviation

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    People in militant-held territories forced to pay 10% fee while cashing in their mearge savings

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    #Donetsk businessmen outraged by militants extortionist policies. They demand food&money for the right to work on markets

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    SBU prevented a series of terrorist acts in #Kharkiv region. Mil planned to explode railways and bridges pic.twitter.com/ZXAUqgxBO2

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Ukrainian policemen detained 2 #DPR mil in #Donetsk region who were hiding from UA law-enforcement since Aug 2014

    Crowd laughs as Russian official insists Russia does not have any troops in eastern Ukraine. #BrusselsForum10

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Pro-RU militants exploded railway track near #Popasna that linked government-controlled and mil-held territories.

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Ukrainian Armed Forces suffered 2 lethal casualties; 7 more got wounded.

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Ukrainian servicemen spotted 15 enemy UAVs in #Mariupol and #Luhansk sectors

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Russia continues to supply its proxies with military equipment and ammunition via uncontrolled parts of RU-UA border.

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Militants regroup their forces and create new units; imitating heavy weapons withdrawal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcPWJ8PXxnwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z24SJK3LhQ … #Russia's #Strelkov robbed,killed #Sloviansk civilians,fmr mayor/collaborator says.

    Attempted assassination of the leader of the Rus gang and terrorist infighting in LNR http://fb.me/3ApqmAFWf

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    From the Office of Russian "altered states of reality"--just another normal day of disinformation, misinformation and outright propaganda.

    It does seem they went off the deep end the last two days.


    Now this is a true Russian FM “altered state of reality” as there is no such OSCE report—sometimes one does in fact wonder just what the Russian FM is smoking these days?

    But since there is not a single push back by any mainstream western media concerning the constant lying I guess he feels safe in continuing the lying.

    #Statement
    #Lavrov: "The @OSCE_SMM reports show that 80% of the violations of the #Minsk agreements are caused by Ukrainian side

    AND another really “altered state of reality” as Ukraine has never stated exactly what Lavrov “claims” to know they are going to do??????

    #News
    Insane #Russia / #Lavrov once again claim, #Minsk agreement wouldn't allow reintegration of occupied #Donbas regions into #Ukraine.

    AND even more of the same “altered state”????

    MOSCOW NOT RULE OUT THAT KYIV MIGHT RESORT TO PROVOCATIVE ACTS IN UKRAINE TO GET WEAPONS FROM ABROAD - LAVROV via Interfax

    AND it just keeps getting worse---as Ukraine has already passed and signed into law the “special status zone” which both Russia and her mercenaries refused to accept and blamed Ukraine for not adhering to Minsk 2—so what the heck is this statement all about????

    #Moscow urges #Kiev to grant special status to some districts in #Donbas - Lavrov

    NOW if it can get worse this crazy following statement—does he realize as a Russian FM not many in the West are talking him seriously?

    Lavrov today: "Leaders of DNR and LNR are recognized by the world. Their signatures are under Minsk agrmt". DNR/LNR have only been recognized by the2 Russian enclaves and Venezuela.

    #RUSSIA WON'T VOTE AT UN SECURITY COUNCIL ON KYIV'S REQUEST FOR PEACEKEEPERS - LAVROV via Interfax

    Yesterday, CSTO Sec Gen Bordyuzha said CSTO "is ready to provide peacekeeping units to resolve conflict in Ukraine" https://translate.google.ie/translat...D91&edit-text=

    Russia is badly wanting to deploy a Russia led peacekeeping force inside the Ukraine and the CSTO is the way to do it but then the Lavrov statement seems to contradict the CSTO SG statement.

    IDEA TO DEPLOY #UN PEACEKEEPERS OR #EU POLICE IN #UKRAINE IS #KYIV'S DIVERSIONARY MANEUVER -LAVROV via Interfax

    Sometimes one also wonders these days about Gorbachev’s statements as well:
    Gorbachev again rewrites history, blames war in #Ukraine on Perestroika failure & USSR breakup
    http://rt.com/politics/242549-gortba...-ukraine-ussr/

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    AND this takes the prize from yesterday:

    Russian minister of culture claims that "Finland is part of the Russian world". Finns themselves beg to differ... pic.twitter.com/tSjXhGOcsh
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    15:02 #Donetsk @nixer79: Battles moved from #Opytne-#Spartak area towards the airport.

    #BreakingNews
    A group of 4 (pro-)Russian terrorists shot and killed an Ukrainian SBU agent in #Volnovakha this morning.
    Manhunt ongoing

    14:48 #Donetsk @relictDon: Sounds of small arms fire and explosions in the northwest.

    Bit of an usual sight: what looks like a Beetle (Жук) engineering reconnaissance vehicle in Luhansk yesterday. pic.twitter.com/KNN7QDE0SM

    #Footage
    Ukrainian forces attack Russian position near #Donetsk #airport.
    Date unknown.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH0qAGGUVyk … pic.twitter.com/lZvY6trNPx

    New #footage of fighters from #Ossetia, getting ready to attack #Donetsk #airport last autumn.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0-ckx0veBU

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    #Donetsk:
    Ongoing battle w mortars, AA guns, small arms at Spartak-#Optyne area

    #Donetsk: Loud shelling from airport area - via @hauzenmynh

    Rus-backed militants blasted rail track in Volnovakha area, Popasna to cut off connection w/ occupied areas - #NSDC pic.twitter.com/5gnMez3aVX

    John McCain: "Mariupol Is Next" http://www.realcleardefense.com/vide..._is_next_.html

    One of the main points in Minsk 1 and 2 agreements is the control of the Ukrainian border by Ukrainians and monitored by OSCE—notice Russia does not adhere to either Minsk 1 and or 2 and does not allow internationally recognized border inspections of their “so called” aid convoys which have turned out to be just military resupply and fueler convoys:

    Russia preps next war convoy of weapons & ammo to Ukraine (officially: "seeds").
    No customs inspection permitted.
    http://russian.rt.com/article/80914

    Stockholm Concerned About Possible Russian Military Operation Against Sweden http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...against-sweden … #Russia #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/w2pfn3Boi4

    Russian nuclear threats against NATO missile defense shield and Danish Navy-----
    Kremlin made very same threats in 80s, when trying to block basing of Pershing-2s and GLCMs in Europe. #Failed

    Putin admits he totally lied re Crimea but chief tv propagandist still serves up same lies: http://ti.me/1Bd4Fha
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    Administration only recently started calling out Russian INF violations concerning a long distance cruise missile that is nuclear capable and in direct violation to the Russian signed INF.

    Russia recently claimed they were not in violation, then claimed such complaints should be handled privately and recently not said anything when their long distance nuclear bombers actually carries out a mock LDCM launch.

    And the administration still silence basically.

    Northcom: Russian Cruise Missile Threat to U.S. Grows http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...-to-u-s-grows/

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    From the Office of Russian "altered states of reality"--just another normal day of disinformation, misinformation and outright propaganda.

    It does seem they went off the deep end the last two days.


    Now this is a true Russian FM “altered state of reality” as there is no such OSCE report—sometimes one does in fact wonder just what the Russian FM is smoking these days?

    But since there is not a single push back by any mainstream western media concerning the constant lying I guess he feels safe in continuing the lying.

    #Statement
    #Lavrov: "The @OSCE_SMM reports show that 80% of the violations of the #Minsk agreements are caused by Ukrainian side

    AND another really “altered state of reality” as Ukraine has never stated exactly what Lavrov “claims” to know they are going to do??????

    #News
    Insane #Russia / #Lavrov once again claim, #Minsk agreement wouldn't allow reintegration of occupied #Donbas regions into #Ukraine.

    AND even more of the same “altered state”????

    MOSCOW NOT RULE OUT THAT KYIV MIGHT RESORT TO PROVOCATIVE ACTS IN UKRAINE TO GET WEAPONS FROM ABROAD - LAVROV via Interfax

    AND it just keeps getting worse---as Ukraine has already passed and signed into law the “special status zone” which both Russia and her mercenaries refused to accept and blamed Ukraine for not adhering to Minsk 2—so what the heck is this statement all about????

    #Moscow urges #Kiev to grant special status to some districts in #Donbas - Lavrov

    NOW if it can get worse this crazy following statement—does he realize as a Russian FM not many in the West are talking him seriously?

    Lavrov today: "Leaders of DNR and LNR are recognized by the world. Their signatures are under Minsk agrmt". DNR/LNR have only been recognized by the2 Russian enclaves and Venezuela.

    #RUSSIA WON'T VOTE AT UN SECURITY COUNCIL ON KYIV'S REQUEST FOR PEACEKEEPERS - LAVROV via Interfax

    Yesterday, CSTO Sec Gen Bordyuzha said CSTO "is ready to provide peacekeeping units to resolve conflict in Ukraine" https://translate.google.ie/translat...D91&edit-text=

    Russia is badly wanting to deploy a Russia led peacekeeping force inside the Ukraine and the CSTO is the way to do it but then the Lavrov statement seems to contradict the CSTO SG statement.

    IDEA TO DEPLOY #UN PEACEKEEPERS OR #EU POLICE IN #UKRAINE IS #KYIV'S DIVERSIONARY MANEUVER -LAVROV via Interfax

    Sometimes one also wonders these days about Gorbachev’s statements as well:
    Gorbachev again rewrites history, blames war in #Ukraine on Perestroika failure & USSR breakup
    http://rt.com/politics/242549-gortba...-ukraine-ussr/
    DNR/LNR global recognition because of the Minsk agreement as stated by Lavrov:

    Those two clowns signed it... but Merkel, Hollande, Putin and Poroshenko didn't... so Lavrov again lies.

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    Russia is really adhering to Minsk 2---sure.......

    #BreakingReport
    There is a direct railway line between #Rostov and #Luhansk now, delivering troops, equipment + ammo.
    http://informator.lg.ua/?p=78300

    SOMETIMES Russian FM slips up and actually tells the truth--yes Russian troops are in the Ukraine.

    Lavrov (seriously): We can provide APC & drones but to "manage these machines and drones we have our operators.It should be the men of war."
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    Russian professor gives a Nazi salute to hail Crimea and Sevastopol that stood up to the oppression of Ukr democracy. pic.twitter.com/dKaHVBWRTl

    NATO SG says if Ukraine applies for NATO membership, they have the same criteria and ability to join as any other country. #BrusselsForum10

    50% Donbas residents want to stay in #Ukraine, fear #Russia "DNR" militants more than Right Sector http://khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1426517734

    Power outage in at least part of Luhansk, possibly all of the city but some places have generators

    WOW! Poland’s pro-Russia Zmiana party urges embrace of Putin
    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/a

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    Russian journos "Ukrainian children must be killed or at least sold on the slavery market" pic.twitter.com/AmOzltxJo6
    #BREAKING Russian "journos" discuss how to terminate children of Ukrainians:
    pic.twitter.com/iaaDyClQDN

    MoD March 2014: There are no Russian troops invading Crimea. MoD March 2015: Russia does not intend to attack anyone. http://russian.rt.com/article/80904

    #Analysis #Map
    Highly likely, #Ukrainian forces destroyed the Seversky-Donets brigde South of Stanitsa-Luhanska. pic.twitter.com/uXsdeMWQzT

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    Interesting if in fact Russian heavy tanks had already crossed into eastern Ukraine on the day of the Crimea Referendum.

    Would seem to then have been a coordinated military action.

    How #Russia occupied #Crimea: RU tanks in #Ukraine in the day of Crimean illegal referendum http://empr.media/video/occupied-cri...gal-referendumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UKlRMzmNJM

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russia is really adhering to Minsk 2---sure.......

    #BreakingReport
    There is a direct railway line between #Rostov and #Luhansk now, delivering troops, equipment + ammo.
    http://informator.lg.ua/?p=78300

    SOMETIMES Russian FM slips up and actually tells the truth--yes Russian troops are in the Ukraine.

    Lavrov (seriously): We can provide APC & drones but to "manage these machines and drones we have our operators.It should be the men of war."
    Seems that while the Russian FM is "distressed over the Ukraine" he seems to not have known about Russian military rail cars being used to deliver weapons, munitions and troops into eastern Ukraine.

    Lavrov says distressed with Ukraine crisis

    Russia
    March 21, 16:53 UTC+3

    MOSCOW, March 21. /TASS/. The conflict in Ukraine is a real tragedy, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Saturday.

    "Yes, I am in distress. The events in Ukraine are tragic," Lavrov said in an interview with "Vesti on Saturday with Sergey Brilev", a TV programme on the Rossiya-1 channel.

    "But I am also distressed with the facts that whims and total unwillingness to negotiate of a number of Kiev politicians simply blocks the implementation of agreements which everyone considered a good and implementable compromise," he added.

    The minister said he did not even want to think of what would happen if the peace process was disrupted.

    "The agreements should be fulfilled and we would be seeking it," he said.

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    Does Putin fully understand that the slide into 1914 was created by words and sabre rattling and when it happened everyone was equally shocked.

    My question---- is Putin actually believing his own propaganda and is in fact now trapped in that propaganda and can no loner fully recognize WHEN to stop that is if he can actually even stop now??

    Really worth the full read concerning this weeks massive unannounced military drills that violated all OSCE and Vienna agreements.

    NOTICE---General Gerasimov-----he is the doctrinal father of the new Russian doctrine of non linear warfare or what is called New Generation Warfare or what the West calls hybrid warfare.

    Putin Mobilizes Forces Preparing to Fight With NATO and US

    Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 12 Issue: 51

    March 19, 2015 03:05 PM Age: 1 day

    By: Pavel Felgenhauer

    (Source: TASS)

    This week (March 16–21), the Russian military began massive, “sudden” military exercises (“vnezapnaya proverka”). The authorities initially announced that the “sudden exercises” are intended to check out the battle readiness of Russia’s Northern Fleet and the possibility of reinforcing it with forces from other military districts. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, 38,000 soldiers, 3,360 military vehicles, 41 navy ships, 15 submarines and 110 aircraft are involved in the exercise. The mass deployment of air and naval forces in the Barents Sea practices ensuring the safety of Russian nuclear missile–armed submarines, which have to be defended at all costs before they launch their hundreds of nuclear warheads at the United States. The military plans to land marines and paratroopers on the shore of the Kola Peninsula close to the Norwegian border and on the polar archipelagos of Novaya Zemlya and Franz Josef Land.

    According to a defense ministry source, the “sudden exercise” was intended to send a message to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) that Russia is ready for war and can counter with force the deployment of limited US and other NATO forces to the Baltic, Romania, Poland and Bulgaria. Moscow, apparently, did not give Western nations any prior notification about the exercise (Vedomosti, March 17).

    On March 18, the Russian defense minister, Army-General Sergei Shoigu, announced that the “sudden exercises,” though centered on the North Fleet, will in effect cover most of Russia's national territory, with action in the Baltic region, the Black Sea and Crimea, the Far East, and central Russia. The transport air command, long-range strategic bomber command, strategic rocket forces, and the Airborne troops (VDV) will be involved. Shoigu’s first deputy, the chief of the General Staff, Army-General Valery Gerasimov, is directly in charge of the “sudden exercises,” and a special high-ranking operational staff headed by Gerasimov has been deployed to the Kola Peninsula. According to Shoigu, the “sudden exercises” are more massive in scope than previously announced: 76,000 soldiers, 65 navy ships, 15 submarines and over 200 military aircraft (Mil.ru, March 18).

    Marines of the Black Sea Fleet have been mobilized into full battle readiness in Crimea and the North Caucasus’ Taman Peninsula. Russian defense forces in Crimea have been reinforced by ten Tu-22M3 “Backfire” strategic bombers and “a motor-rifle brigade from the Central military district” (Interfax, March 18). Russian forces in the Kaliningrad exclave on the Baltic have been reinforced with jet fighters and bombers from the Russian mainland. A “source in the defense ministry” told Russian state news agencies: “Baltic Fleet landing assault ships are tasked to deliver Iskander ballistic missiles for deployment in Kaliningrad.” During previous military exercises in 2014, Iskander missiles have been temporarily deployed in Kaliningrad, but this was announced after they were reportedly shipped out. The Iskander is capable of delivering a half-ton conventional or a nuclear warhead with high precision at a reported maximum range of 500 kilometers. The Iskanders from the Kaliningrad exclave can hit any target inside Poland, much of the Baltic states, and parts of Germany and the Czech and Slovak republics—all of them being NATO members. The announcement of Iskanders deployed in a forward position aimed at Europe and the deliberate ambiguity about the intention to keep them in Kaliningrad permanently or to withdraw after the end of the “sudden exercises” are intended, according to Russian commentators, as an “information attack” to intimidate Europeans (Regnum, March 17).

    This week, Russia is also celebrating with much official pomp the one-year anniversary of the annexation of Crimea. March 18, has been made a regional public holiday in Crimea, and State Duma deputies have proposed to make March 18, a national holiday—The Day of the Unification of Russian Lands. The process of “unification” may not be over and may involve other territories with Russian-speaking populations: parts of Ukraine and the Baltic republics of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. According to Duma foreign affairs committee chairman Alexei Pushkov, “In Lithuania, the authorities say they fear Russian aggression and need to hold out three days before NATO reinforcements arrive—that is clearly warmongering” (Rbctv, March 17). In turn, the Lithuanian parliament, this week, rushed through a law to reinstate conscription, which was abolished in 2008. According to the Lithuanian defense ministry, conscription will allow the country to increase the number of soldiers and help form a reserve force (Interfax, March 19).

    In a propaganda film aired on prime time by Russia state TV, on March 15, President Vladimir Putin announced that a decision to take over Crimea was taken in the morning of March 23, 2014 (see EDM, March 17). To ensure the Crimea takeover, Russian special forces soldiers, marines and paratroopers were secretly deployed as well as new Bastion batteries with Yahont land-based supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles to fend off the US and NATO navies. According to Putin, the Kremlin was not sure the West would not intervene to prevent the occupation of Crimea and was ready to use nuclear weapons as a measure of last resort: “We were ready for the worst case scenario, but hoped it would not happen.” Putin added: “Our nukes are always ready for action” (Rossiyskaya Gazeta, March 16).

    The massive “sudden exercises” of the Russian military this week carry a clear message: Moscow is not ready to stand down and is threatening the use of force, including nuclear weapons. A ceasefire is holding in Ukraine at present, but it is wobbly, and the status quo on the ground does not satisfy Russian long-term aspirations.IAt a mass state-organized rally to commemorate Crimea’s annexation on March 18, in Moscow close to the Kremlin, Putin declared: “Russians and Ukrainians are one people” (odin narod) (Kremlin.ru, March 18).

    In September 2013, the present Ukrainian crisis was still in the making, triggered by Kyiv’s desire to sign an association agreement with the European Union, which Putin utterly opposed. Speaking to reporters in the Kremlin, Putin announced: “No matter what happens, or where Ukraine goes, anyway someday we will be together [as one nation], because we are one people” (Kremlin.ru, September 4, 2013). Putin’s continued assertion of Russians and Ukrainians as “one people” sounds much alike one of the Nazis’ most-repeated political slogans: “Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer”—“One People, One Empire, One Leader.” In pursuit of a dream of the reunification of all the presumed Russian peoples, nuclear blackmail or “brinkmanship” may be used and sudden military exercises will be enacted that are, in essence, direct preparations for possible large-scale war in Europe.
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    Night Wolves deny Lebedev's claims in The Times of an anti-Putin alliance of ultranationalists & Kadyrovites. http://www.mk.ru/politics/2015/03/20...ya-putina.html

    Head of self-proclaimed DNR Zakharchenko: the 'republic' will now use four currencies: #Ukraine hrivniya, US dollar, Euro, #Russia|n ruble

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28I2hHKa30k … #Communists w/ warlord Alexei "Forget #MH17" Mozgovoi's"Ghost Brigade"(#Russia-held #Luhansk) pic.twitter.com/OgEsAqbJM0

    Seems, I was right about the intention.
    This beast is to cross rivers and lakes. pic.twitter.com/Z6ZBA0f28b

    Also proves, the Ukrainian "defense" there is a JOKE!
    Russian forces could lead @lifenews_ru crew over the river. pic.twitter.com/Cx6VmpuUll

    #Analysis #Map
    Russian fighters and Russian TV cross Seversky-Donets without Ukrainian resistance.
    #MinskFarce pic.twitter.com/Mi12GqUWaH

    ALERT! CSTO is ready to provide peacekeeping units to resolve conflict in Ukraine. CSTO 20 Mar http://www.odkb-csto.org/news/detail...&SECTION_ID=91 … pic.twitter.com/sQyuzTu46O

    Bordyuzha: If decision is taken (he says by United Nations) Russian-led CSTO is ready to provide a peacekeeping division

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    Russian “Holy War”????
    Rogozin has lost it. He quotes von Münnich: "Russian State has the advantage over others that it is directly governed by God Himself".

    Putin just made a huge decision that may explain his strange disappearance http://www.businessinsider.com/putin...-choice-2015-3

    "The DNR is the perfect example for what I want to see in France. I want all cities in France to look like Donetsk"
    https://news.vice.com/video/voluntee...icenewstwitter

    Air Policing jets on 21 MAR in international airspace above the Baltic Sea near LV border identified RU AF. 2x An-26, 2x Su-27, 2x Su-34.

    RUAF activity today 21MAR15 @ Rostov-na-Donu. Su-34s, Su-27, Tu-95. Fly-by? (C) M.Mizikaev pic.twitter.com/jrmEovTYeA

    #Footage
    Russian invasion forces BTR-80 column in #Donetsk city.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9QCgsH8QVE
    pic.twitter.com/qXnKQj366O

    #OSCE: The security situation in #Donbas is fluid and unpredictable and the ceasefire does not hold everywhere.
    http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/145931

    Latest from SMM to Ukraine 20 March: artillery/mortar fire in number locations -incl in/around Donetsk, E of Mariupol http://bit.ly/1DIyblJ

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    Notice---why is the Russian General assigned to JCCC complaining????

    Russian General Lentsov blames Ukrainian Forces for destroying Stanytsia Luhanska bridge using remote-controlled explosive device http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/145931

    RU have now 2 bridgeheads there and in a couple of days RU will move lots of manpower on The other side of Donets river.


    Russian wanted the OSCE to monitor the Minsk agreements and not the UN and or the EU now they refuse to allow them to travel anywhere in the Russian occupied regions--

    #OSCE has to ask in advance for permission to visit sites they wish to see + they are supervised by the Russians. http://www.stripes.com/news/europe/c...tions-1.335879

    They can move around freely on Ukrainian territory. Russian brass: "That's true, but on that territory there is no fighting"

    "The war is here, in the SE. So we control them (OSCE) because we want to provide safety for them." Ah. Right. But of course.

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    Now Russia is attempting via one of their media outlets and and alleged expert to push back on the new MH17 shot down evidence that proved it was a Russian BUK missile.

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    I see Sputnik has wheeled out Peter Haisenko in an attempt to counter the #MH17 Buk shrapnel claims http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150320/1019794720.html

    I note Peter Haisenko repeats the debunked claims R60 missile debris was found in the wreckage of #MH17

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Does Putin fully understand that the slide into 1914 was created by words and sabre rattling and when it happened everyone was equally shocked.

    My question---- is Putin actually believing his own propaganda and is in fact now trapped in that propaganda and can no loner fully recognize WHEN to stop that is if he can actually even stop now??

    Really worth the full read concerning this weeks massive unannounced military drills that violated all OSCE and Vienna agreements.

    NOTICE---General Gerasimov-----he is the doctrinal father of the new Russian doctrine of non linear warfare or what is called New Generation Warfare or what the West calls hybrid warfare.

    Putin Mobilizes Forces Preparing to Fight With NATO and US

    Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 12 Issue: 51

    March 19, 2015 03:05 PM Age: 1 day

    By: Pavel Felgenhauer

    (Source: TASS)

    This week (March 16–21), the Russian military began massive, “sudden” military exercises (“vnezapnaya proverka”). The authorities initially announced that the “sudden exercises” are intended to check out the battle readiness of Russia’s Northern Fleet and the possibility of reinforcing it with forces from other military districts. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, 38,000 soldiers, 3,360 military vehicles, 41 navy ships, 15 submarines and 110 aircraft are involved in the exercise. The mass deployment of air and naval forces in the Barents Sea practices ensuring the safety of Russian nuclear missile–armed submarines, which have to be defended at all costs before they launch their hundreds of nuclear warheads at the United States. The military plans to land marines and paratroopers on the shore of the Kola Peninsula close to the Norwegian border and on the polar archipelagos of Novaya Zemlya and Franz Josef Land.

    According to a defense ministry source, the “sudden exercise” was intended to send a message to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) that Russia is ready for war and can counter with force the deployment of limited US and other NATO forces to the Baltic, Romania, Poland and Bulgaria. Moscow, apparently, did not give Western nations any prior notification about the exercise (Vedomosti, March 17).

    On March 18, the Russian defense minister, Army-General Sergei Shoigu, announced that the “sudden exercises,” though centered on the North Fleet, will in effect cover most of Russia's national territory, with action in the Baltic region, the Black Sea and Crimea, the Far East, and central Russia. The transport air command, long-range strategic bomber command, strategic rocket forces, and the Airborne troops (VDV) will be involved. Shoigu’s first deputy, the chief of the General Staff, Army-General Valery Gerasimov, is directly in charge of the “sudden exercises,” and a special high-ranking operational staff headed by Gerasimov has been deployed to the Kola Peninsula. According to Shoigu, the “sudden exercises” are more massive in scope than previously announced: 76,000 soldiers, 65 navy ships, 15 submarines and over 200 military aircraft (Mil.ru, March 18).

    Marines of the Black Sea Fleet have been mobilized into full battle readiness in Crimea and the North Caucasus’ Taman Peninsula. Russian defense forces in Crimea have been reinforced by ten Tu-22M3 “Backfire” strategic bombers and “a motor-rifle brigade from the Central military district” (Interfax, March 18). Russian forces in the Kaliningrad exclave on the Baltic have been reinforced with jet fighters and bombers from the Russian mainland. A “source in the defense ministry” told Russian state news agencies: “Baltic Fleet landing assault ships are tasked to deliver Iskander ballistic missiles for deployment in Kaliningrad.” During previous military exercises in 2014, Iskander missiles have been temporarily deployed in Kaliningrad, but this was announced after they were reportedly shipped out. The Iskander is capable of delivering a half-ton conventional or a nuclear warhead with high precision at a reported maximum range of 500 kilometers. The Iskanders from the Kaliningrad exclave can hit any target inside Poland, much of the Baltic states, and parts of Germany and the Czech and Slovak republics—all of them being NATO members. The announcement of Iskanders deployed in a forward position aimed at Europe and the deliberate ambiguity about the intention to keep them in Kaliningrad permanently or to withdraw after the end of the “sudden exercises” are intended, according to Russian commentators, as an “information attack” to intimidate Europeans (Regnum, March 17).

    This week, Russia is also celebrating with much official pomp the one-year anniversary of the annexation of Crimea. March 18, has been made a regional public holiday in Crimea, and State Duma deputies have proposed to make March 18, a national holiday—The Day of the Unification of Russian Lands. The process of “unification” may not be over and may involve other territories with Russian-speaking populations: parts of Ukraine and the Baltic republics of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. According to Duma foreign affairs committee chairman Alexei Pushkov, “In Lithuania, the authorities say they fear Russian aggression and need to hold out three days before NATO reinforcements arrive—that is clearly warmongering” (Rbctv, March 17). In turn, the Lithuanian parliament, this week, rushed through a law to reinstate conscription, which was abolished in 2008. According to the Lithuanian defense ministry, conscription will allow the country to increase the number of soldiers and help form a reserve force (Interfax, March 19).

    In a propaganda film aired on prime time by Russia state TV, on March 15, President Vladimir Putin announced that a decision to take over Crimea was taken in the morning of March 23, 2014 (see EDM, March 17). To ensure the Crimea takeover, Russian special forces soldiers, marines and paratroopers were secretly deployed as well as new Bastion batteries with Yahont land-based supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles to fend off the US and NATO navies. According to Putin, the Kremlin was not sure the West would not intervene to prevent the occupation of Crimea and was ready to use nuclear weapons as a measure of last resort: “We were ready for the worst case scenario, but hoped it would not happen.” Putin added: “Our nukes are always ready for action” (Rossiyskaya Gazeta, March 16).

    The massive “sudden exercises” of the Russian military this week carry a clear message: Moscow is not ready to stand down and is threatening the use of force, including nuclear weapons. A ceasefire is holding in Ukraine at present, but it is wobbly, and the status quo on the ground does not satisfy Russian long-term aspirations.IAt a mass state-organized rally to commemorate Crimea’s annexation on March 18, in Moscow close to the Kremlin, Putin declared: “Russians and Ukrainians are one people” (odin narod) (Kremlin.ru, March 18).

    In September 2013, the present Ukrainian crisis was still in the making, triggered by Kyiv’s desire to sign an association agreement with the European Union, which Putin utterly opposed. Speaking to reporters in the Kremlin, Putin announced: “No matter what happens, or where Ukraine goes, anyway someday we will be together [as one nation], because we are one people” (Kremlin.ru, September 4, 2013). Putin’s continued assertion of Russians and Ukrainians as “one people” sounds much alike one of the Nazis’ most-repeated political slogans: “Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer”—“One People, One Empire, One Leader.” In pursuit of a dream of the reunification of all the presumed Russian peoples, nuclear blackmail or “brinkmanship” may be used and sudden military exercises will be enacted that are, in essence, direct preparations for possible large-scale war in Europe.
    On 20 March 2015, Russia threatened Europe with "military confrontation" http://www.mid.ru/brp_4.nsf/0/3012E6...257E0F0033A8BB … pic.twitter.com/OdC9q1s8Q1

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