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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Non-stop fighting on frontline in #Shyrokyne for the last 12 hrs according to #Donbas Battalion. #Mariupol https://twitter.com/HromadskeTV/stat...07850140581888
    Assault ended but Russian forces continue shelling Ukrainian positions at #Shyrokyne, using 122mm & 152mm howitizers http://www.mariupol.tv/news/war/mari...rtillerii.html

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    Interesting in that Russia purchased drones from Israel but the Ukraine cannot---???? Interesting that Russia can fly countless drones over the Ukraine But not over Russia—what is fair and equal these days is determined by Russia it seems—and Western assistance is exactly where again???

    "An Israeli official... said the drones sale to Ukraine was quashed after Putin phoned Netanyahu to object." https://twitter.com/business/status/595592641103921152

    Appears those so called ethnic proRussians are now voting with their feet and cars……
    Civilians Reported To Be Leaving Donetsk. http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...st-night/#8171 … pic.twitter.com/YFtX0fpo4U

    This is what massive exodus from Donetsk following increased shelling looks like

    Another “altered state of reality” statement from the Russian FM:

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    #Lavrov: Politics should not interfere with economic aspects of #Russia-#EU relations, which should develop from natural interests

    And another “fake statement”:--what the heck is “strict compliance” WHEN Russia implements nothing and constantly violates Minsk 2—just what has he been smoking today?????

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    #Lavrov: We insist on strict compliance with the Feb.12 Minsk Agreements, and this work cannot be done without building direct dialogue

    WT Heck……..is he thinking when he makes such statements---in a total different planet it seems.
    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    #Lavrov: Brussels and other European capitals assume that #Russia is the only one that should abide by the Minsk Agreements

    Russia has absolutely ignored and not implemented a single point of the Minsk 2 and has supported her mercenaries in their non-compliance as well and THEN he makes such a statement?????

    Russian naval infantry in the Ukraine:
    #Novoazovsk May05 @GirkinGirkin pic.twitter.com/SK0Nm03fYQ
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    Since it was relatively quiet today was hoping for a late shelling -fighting start and hoping the Russian mercenaries were running low on ammo and needed a resupply----

    #Donetsk 19:13
    Kyivsky distr. - heavy firing continues. Perhaps in the Tocmash plant area. https://twitter.com/UrriKara4en/stat...22230840766466

    #Donetsk 18:00
    On the bypass road column of armored vehicles in the direction of #Yasinuvataya https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/sta...18702533459969

    #Donetsk today. Under separatists control.
    #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/2pMB259wl1

    #Donetsk 7:44PM
    Sounds like serious battle in airport area, hearing machine guns, tanks and mortars. https://twitter.com/funkermanjke/sta...30187250896899

    #Donetsk 7:41PM
    Kalinovka - Heavy artillery working in north. https://twitter.com/Serzzze/status/595629412420288515

    Y-day these houses in #Shyrokyne were undamaged. At night Rus proxies fired about 90 rockets https://www.facebook.com/andriy.tsap...53030336214690 … pic.twitter.com/j5PyDzL7Fn

    Top view of the new Russian MBT-Kind of reminds me of the WW2 German Tiger or Super Tiger tanks-
    pic.twitter.com/tz8TcGQaD2

    18:48 #Opytne @AMykhailova Incoming, something heavy.

    19:15 #Donetsk @GirkinGirkin Rumble in Putilovka
    19:20 Bakiny: "A Putin's vehicles column stopped, waiting for a UAV

    When the finger is being pointed at Russian troops and heavy weapons being in the Ukraine --the standard Refrain is "it ain't us"--when the mercenaries are caught firing at the Ukrainian towns and positions their standard refrain is "Ukrainians started it".

    It seems they are attemptiong really hard to provoke the Ukrainians into retunring fire so they have an excuse to launch a general offensive--which they are not doing thus a sense of growing frustration on the part of Russia and her mercenaries.

    #Horlivka - outgoing shelling towards #Dzerzhynsk.
    Ruscists confirm the fire exchange but are saying that "Ukrainians started"
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    Drone footage shows militants' heavy weapons located in Donetsk residential Areas--massive Russian Minsk 2 violation

    http://uatoday.tv/society/drone-425438.html

    Video drone footage of Russian-backed militants hiding heavy artillery, tanks and military equipment in residential areas has attracted a lot of attention on the Internet.

    One clip attributed to Dnipro-1 air reconnaissance regiment shows a base in a Donetsk neighborhood, replete with military equipment - including tanks - which are banned by the February 12 ceasefire declaration signed in Minsk, Belarus.

    Ukrainian officials and international observers have reported thousands of ceasefire violations since the latest truce took effect and more than 100 Ukrainian soldiers have died and over 500 wounded since then.
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    Someone needs to ask the Russian Foreign Minister if they are not in eastern Ukraine--THEN who captured Debaltseve???

    A better question would be just who then captured Debaltseve if it was a "Russian victory"??? AND Debaltseve was captured after Minsk 2 went into effect so WHY is the Russian FM complaining--one would think he would remain a tad quiet in order to not draw attention to that fact??? SO again WHO is violating Minsk 2 if not the Russians??

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    #Lavrov: We insist on strict compliance with the Feb.12 Minsk Agreements, and this work cannot be done without building direct dialogue

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    #Lavrov: Brussels and other European capitals assume that #Russia is the only one that should abide by the Minsk Agreements

    In Russia, a #VictoryDay celebration of Russia capturing Debaltseve Ukraine. 1 sign says "Today Crimea tomorrow Rome" pic.twitter.com/Es8uXtbR7s

    @InfoResist "That is just magic. New vehicles move in #Donetsk w/Russian army logo"(that Mall of America logo copy) pic.twitter.com/NX1BLz1KlV
    youtu.be/hF27ZrrEDGA
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    Remember now it was the Russian MoD and the Russian FM that both recently stated adamently that there were absolutely no Russian military AD systems in the Ukraine.

    Bascially called the US statements lies--so who is now lying???

    Joint #Russia-Separatists Forces in #Donetsk today. #Russian Army only tanks T-72 and SAM Strela-10 https://youtu.be/hF27ZrrEDGA

    Videos on the other Russian AD systems have been posted a number of times by social media.

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    #Russia soldiers attacking #Artemivsk. 2 #Ukraine soldiers killed, 6 wounded

    19:44 #Donetsk @funkermanjke "Heavy volleys from the Airport area, also smallarms, tanks and mortars heard

    Ukraine's #Aidar Battalion marks one year on the front lines http://uatoday.tv/politics/ukraine-s...es-425449.html

    #Luhansk @Edward_Lugansk At 5pm-6:30pm in the west of Luhansk distant outgoing heavy volleys were heard, no such for a Long

    20:51 @AMykhailova "#Opytne is shelled again, heavy explosions. We don't reply"
    One has to admire a military that digs in, has limited counter battery abilities, limited UAVs, and no real AT defenses AND does not return fire just to argue it is not violating an agreement that they appear to be the only one's holding to.

    AND nothing but silence from Obama, Hollande, and Merkel.

    21:11 #Avdeevka @rechnikato Quiet here

    #Donetsk 9:20PM
    Oktyabrsky ds, somewhere betw the train station and near the Putilovksky railway a house is burning https://twitter.com/AlfaNubovsky/sta...54271783276544
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    More and more evidence is even "leaking out of Russia" concerning the shooting down of MH17--question is if individuals inside the Putin inner circle including the Russian Defense Minister end up being charged for the shot down--HOW will Russia respond??

    Another interesting point is that this has been driven by social media open source analysts from the very beginning who were bascially from the start totally correct down to the exact Russian BUK per number that fired the misssile AND nothing was ever provided by any western intel agency--just how strange is that??

    Novaya Gazeta posted leaked report by Russian engineers which proves that MH17 was shot down by BUK M-1 http://www.novayagazeta.ru/inquests/68332.html

    Published a report from Russian experts (not propaganda) that BUK downed #MH17.
    Was fired from S. of v.Zaroshenskoe

    Approximate coordinates where the BUK was fired: 2.5-3.5km radius, 47.979855, 38.448580

    NOW watch the Russian media and their trolls "spin" the story back to the already debunked "it was an Ukrainian BUK"--taking online bets on exactly how long it takes them from the release of an evidently very accurate Russian analysis of the shot down????????

    Interesting question is why was it released now??? After attempting to pin it on a Ukrainian ground attack fighter--maybe trying to get ahead of the Dutch investigation results and pending charges.
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    Heads up--Russia adjusting their non linear warfare based on the ongoing experiences seen in the Ukraine and the western responses to that non linear warfare.

    Notice the including of the term "information confrontation".


    Russia to adjust national security strategy due to Ukrainian crisis, other threats


    Russia
    May 05, 21:19 UTC+3

    Emerging military threats force Russia to adjust the national security strategy till 2020 and the doctrine of Russia’s information security

    © Vitaly Nevar/TASS


    MOSCOW, May 5. /TASS/. Russia’s Security Council has taken a decision to adjust the national security strategy till 2020 and the doctrine of Russia’s information security, Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolay Patrushev said in a feature article to be published in Wednesday’s issue of the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper.

    Russian Security Council preparing new Doctrine of Russia’s Information Security. Russia's new military doctrine says use of protest moods typical for conflicts nowadays. Russia’s revised military doctrine lists foreign private military firms among threats.

    "First of all, it was necessitated by new emerging military threats," he wrote. "Their signs are seen in the developments of the Arab Spring, in Syria and Iraq, in the situation in and around Ukraine."

    He noted that pursuing their own interests leading powers were using "indirect actions," relying on popular protests, radical and extremist organizations, private military companies. "The United States and NATO are growing more and more aggressive in respect of Russia. They are building up their offensive potential in the direct proximity to our borders and are actively deploying a global missile defense system," he wrote.

    These reasons necessitated amendments to Russia’s military doctrine to outline key tasks of the armed forces, the development of the defence sector and possible steps to prevent armed conflicts. "Russia’s military doctrine was amended in late 2014," Patrushev recalled. "Its updated edition pays more attention to domestic issues, information confrontation. It specified some provisions of the current military doctrine. At the same time, it preserved its defensive nature and reiterated Russia’s pledge to use for the protection of its national interests military methods only when all other non-force methods are exhausted."
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    Heavy loss day for the Uklrainian Army that is resisting greatly the inherent urge to return fire--not sure how much longer they can be held on a long lease before they finally start returning fire in order to actually save soldiers from being killed or wounded.

    AND still no responses from Obama, Hollande, and Merkel who seem content is allowing the killing to go on and on---seriously holding Putin responsible. But hey words do not cost much these days but silence is really a cheap way out for politicians.

    #Avdeevka @AMykhailova 95th brigade has 4 KIA today

    Total for today in all combat zones is 6 KIA and 11 WIA.


    #Russia's proxies were shelling #Shyrokyne w/ heavy weapons for 2hrs, now stopped. 1 #Donbas serviceman was WIA http://24tv.ua/news/showNews.do?obst...7&tag=ukrayina
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    More and more evidence is even "leaking out of Russia" concerning the shooting down of MH17--question is if individuals inside the Putin inner circle including the Russian Defense Minister end up being charged for the shot down--HOW will Russia respond??

    Another interesting point is that this has been driven by social media open source analysts from the very beginning who were bascially from the start totally correct down to the exact Russian BUK per number that fired the misssile AND nothing was ever provided by any western intel agency--just how strange is that??

    Novaya Gazeta posted leaked report by Russian engineers which proves that MH17 was shot down by BUK M-1 http://www.novayagazeta.ru/inquests/68332.html

    Published a report from Russian experts (not propaganda) that BUK downed #MH17.
    Was fired from S. of v.Zaroshenskoe


    Approximate coordinates where the BUK was fired: 2.5-3.5km radius, 47.979855, 38.448580

    NOW watch the Russian media and their trolls "spin" the story back to the already debunked "it was an Ukrainian BUK"--taking online bets on exactly how long it takes them from the release of an evidently very accurate Russian analysis of the shot down????????

    Interesting question is why was it released now??? After attempting to pin it on a Ukrainian ground attack fighter SU-25--maybe trying to get ahead of the Dutch investigation results and pending charges.
    Social media is now starting to tear apart the Russian report and noticing problems which all now point to attempting to bending the narrative back to the Ukrainian BUK as being responsible for the shot down of MH17.

    Isn't the firing position a long way away from the scorched field? and would also be on the wrong side of the plane to the damage

    I am noob in SAMs, but from that village you can't approach the plane from the front. So more likely you right

    With the Kremlin's admission that the SU-25 thing was always bunk, I mourn the end of Voloshin, the Spaniard, BBC witnesses, radar photos...

    I was wrong. There will always be diehard fans of ole' SU-25 over Ukrainian Buk, like vinyl enthusiasts over CDs.
    https://twitter.com/PorKoshenko/stat...70989419196416
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    Leaders of #Russia terrorists #DPR and #LPR decided to ignore meeting of Contact Group in #Minsk

    Yet they and the Russian Foreign Minister constantly complain the Ukraine will not talk to them and the Ukraine was at the meeting.

    So again Russian hyprocrisy especailly since the Russian FM today complained Russia is getting the single blame for not implementing Minsk 2.

    So much for actually believing Russia wants a solution--hoping Obama, Hollande and Merkel paid attention to this today.

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    Just another form of Russian non linear warfare---

    Balts Say Russian Navy Bullying Undersea Energy Cable Crewshttp://www.rferl.org/content/russia-.../26996165.html

    Notice Russian while complaining the Ukrainians are not implementing Minskl 2 exactly then WHAT are they doing reference the release of POWs a key Minsk 2 demand as they have released all theie POWs.

    SBU says around 300 Ukrainian POWs remain in separatist captivity; volunteer says more like 1,000 http://www.microsofttranslator.com/b...%3Fattempt%3D1

    22:21 #Donetsk @rechnikato UAV is being shot down again #UFO_safari/#ISS_hunting

    22:10 #Luhansk @UkroSpider [Battle sounds] in #Stanytsia_Luhanska direction [no flashes seen, not cannons or MG]

    #Luhansk
    22:24 East @LUGANSK_TODAY Small arms &smth heavier (MG maybe) rafale in burnt-out Epicenter/Dzerzhynsky block area.

    #Donetsk 10:21
    Russians are hunting UFO's again https://twitter.com/rechnikato/statu...69650966487040

    #Mariupol residents can hear heavy explosions in #Shyrokyne direction

    Russian command vehicle convoy moving on M21. No parade insignia...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4GvnbMMeFshttps://www.google.de/maps/@48.18005...IYbYcInkQA!2e0 … pic.twitter.com/3Tb0zEZrgX

    #Russia new 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV Self-Propelled Gun (SPG) finally unwrapped ahead on May 9 #VictoryDayParadepic.twitter.com/wvS9FPbucK
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    Off Topic BUT well worth the watching of this has English subtitles and is more about the human condition than anything specifically Russian. A very worthwhile use of two hours.

    Must watch documentary on Russia's toughest prison. Insightful, compassionate, thought-provoking. Incredible work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKhxTztHdnw

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    Signing off tonight with some humor for AFG and Iraqi vets---

    My idea for the perfect VBIED using the 'hide in plain sight' theory. pic.twitter.com/01Gq2ICbkb

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    #Putin says: "No Russian troops in #Ukraine", but tanks on parade in #Donetsk carry #Russia's Army official insignia. pic.twitter.com/e1eUDQRsZE

    Russian (Ground Forces, Ministry of Internal Affairs, Ministry of Emergency Situations) troops in Donetsk, Ukraine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEHf2qjsJsc

    U.S. intelligence agencies still lagging behind, but making progress...
    http://news.yahoo.com/us-now-sees-ru...ory&soc_trk=tw
    pic.twitter.com/oLbVFj12TJ

    .@StateDept says UAVs in E. #Ukraine are "unmistakable sign of Russia's presence" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...nts-in-ukraine … pic.twitter.com/e2mzJwlrlL

    1 #Ukrainian serviceman died in combats near #Debaltseve. #Russian proxies shelled at UA position 25 times there. No #Ceasefire

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    Extremely important for the shot down of MH 17 investigation:


    SBU Alpha detained terrorist "Grek". One of the terrorists involved in downing #MH17. His voice was on the recording
    http://podrobnosti.ua/2032699-sbu-za...dy-somali.html

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    #Malomuzh: Russian militants are preparing offensive in 12 directions http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/6-may-m...ring-offensive … via @dmitry_gordon

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Map. Situation in eastern #Ukraine, May 6, 12:00 EET pic.twitter.com/GPXzuc1oJZ

    Ukrainians debunking Donetsk May 3rd shelling lies too: it came from NNE = Russian side.
    http://informator.lg.ua/?p=89443#more-89443 … pic.twitter.com/qsP1vvP7pu

    Russian General Lentsov arrived with 70 staff officers. Now he has 1000s of Russian (army, internal, civil defence) troops in Donbas pic.twitter.com/S6wTtQ5d0V

    War criminal Zakharchenko still in wheelchair after ten weeks. Seems to be criple/lost a foot... pic.twitter.com/OZ7PZXjlz1

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Ukrainian officers confiscated 6 anti-tank grenade launchers, grenades, ammo, explosives during the search of a bus in Dnipropetrovsk reg

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    4 RU citizens arrested for 2 months. They gathered intel and took part in pro-RU subversive groups in Ukraine

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Pro-Russian fighters move their personnel and military supplies closer to the frontline in both Donetsk and Luhansk sectors
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    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    5 Ukrainian servicemen KIA, 12 got wounded in the last 24 hours

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Ukrainian servicemen spotted 17 flights of enemy UAVs

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Hotspot: Zolote, Tryokhizbenka, Sokilnyky & Stanytsia Luhanska – Luhansk sec. No record of heavy weapons use.

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Hotspot: Militants perpetually attack Avdiivka, Pisky, Opytne & outskirts of Horlivka, firing from large mortars and artillery pieces

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Hotspot: Shyrokyne – Mariupol sec. Militants used 152mm artillery from Bezimenne (10km from contact line) – clear violation of Minsk II.

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Pro-Russian militants have violated Minsk II, using 120mm mortars, 122mm and 152mm artillery and tanks

    .@Yuriy_Sergeyev: #Russia brings us to the abyss of world war that may already be the last one http://un.mfa.gov.ua/en/press-center...vitovoji-vijni … pic.twitter.com/ulrdnFH8aX
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Extremely important for the shot down of MH 17 investigation:


    SBU Alpha detained terrorist "Grek". One of the terrorists involved in downing #MH17. His voice was on the recording
    http://podrobnosti.ua/2032699-sbu-za...dy-somali.html
    The Russian info war had at one time over six different "who did it but it was not us stories" floating out there and NOW--what happen??

    In the end they will try one more time to blame the Ukrainian BUK that was damaged by the Ukrainians and would have never fired even a rubber band and that story has been massively debunked.

    Frontpage of todays Novaya Gazeta "It was the BUK-M1" #MH17 http://bit.ly/1JqbaTY @EliotHiggins pic.twitter.com/jbTqMesTYd

    MH17 - Sputnik gets aboard the "It Was Actually A Buk All Along" trainhttp://sputniknews.com/europe/20150506/1021764384.html

    Maybe the fear of murder charges and crimes against humanity coming from the Dutch that shook the tree that could reach as high as the Russian Mod and Putin.
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