Coin and counterdrug ops

**MikeF** · 04-23-2009

Here's a pretty good thesis from DA at NPS....

Accession Number : ADA451328

Title : Insurgency in the Hood: Understanding Insurgencies Through Urban Gangs

Descriptive Note : Master's thesis

Corporate Author : NAVAL POSTGRADUATE SCHOOL MONTEREY CA

Personal Author(s) : Evans, Edward R. ; Spies, James R.

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Report Date : JUN 2006

Pagination or Media Count : 85

Abstract : Past, current and future military endeavors will invariably involve conflict at the sub-state level. A recurring problem in the study of insurgent conflict is a lack of data that has the breadth, depth, and historical accuracy to provide insight as to why, at the individual level, people participate in insurgency. Accessibility to street gangs provides a comprehensive source of data not seen in insurgencies. Street gangs provide a "ground truth" to the interaction between the state and organized sub-state group in a competition for control. The individuals who fuel both sides of this competition for control are basing decisions to participate in insurgency on a framework founded in rational actor theory, but modified by their perspective of the world. Groups who wish to recruit individuals into their insurgency apply incentives and disincentives selectively to individuals to compel membership. As a group gains more members it can apply more incentives, increasing the rate or future recruitment and level of control over a community. A comprehensive and effective strategy cannot be developed to counter these insurgent forces without answering the fundamental questions behind individual participation first. This thesis examines insurgency from the individual level and proposes concepts that must accompany any attempt to combat rebel groups.

Descriptors : *TACTICAL ANALYSIS, *INSURGENCY, CONTROL, MILITARY HISTORY, MILITARY FORCE LEVELS, URBAN AREAS, THESES, CONFLICT

Subject Categories : UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE

Distribution Statement : APPROVED FOR PUBLIC RELEASE

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v/r

Mike

**Spartan6** · 04-23-2009

Great stuff, thanks. I will submit the draft document for your comment, mockery, snide remarks and anything else you deem constructive or entertaining. "Never surrender"

**slapout9** · 04-23-2009

Spartan6, link to the SF paper I was talking about. Addresses some of the points you were asking questions about. Uses an older COIN format but has some good stuff in it.

http://cgsc.cdmhost.com/cgi-bin/show...ename=1815.pdf

**MikeF** · 04-23-2009

I started considering that gangs and drug wars were simple insurgencies- just different grievances or pursuit of profit.

When you look at it objectively in that manner, it makes sense.

At least to me.

BUT, cops and soldiers are different. Anyone that has had to train Army and Cops knows that. Any soldier that has been arrested understands that.

I don't know how to minimize the gap.

v/r

Mike

**Majormarginal** · 04-24-2009

We're not that different. Patrolmen are akin to Infantry in attitudes and worldview.

**Spartan6** · 04-24-2009

Originally Posted by MikeF

I started considering that gangs and drug wars were simple insurgencies- just different grievances or pursuit of profit.

When you look at it objectively in that manner, it makes sense.

At least to me.

BUT, cops and soldiers are different. Anyone that has had to train Army and Cops knows that. Any soldier that has been arrested understands that.

I don't know how to minimize the gap.

v/r

Mike

I think we're both tracking. There are similarities but there needs to be obvious modification. There are root causes that promote drug use and crime, but there is no desire on the part of the traffickers to create standing armies and overthrow the government. I'm not approaching this as a way to create a militarized police, but more of a way to analyze and develop a holistic, synchronized way to govern bringing multiple assets of the government to bear on the problem.

**Spartan6** · 05-09-2009

ALCON,
I've heard the Columbians have a very successful amnesty and reintegration program for former FARC memebers. Does anyone have any information on this program? Thanks.

**Jedburgh** · 05-09-2009

Originally Posted by Spartan6

ALCON,
I've heard the Columbians have a very successful amnesty and reintegration program for former FARC members. Does anyone have any information on this program? Thanks.