In The USA: the Next Revolution

**slapout9** · 02-25-2011

Originally Posted by RJ

I was a bonifide Texas Snow Goose Guide on the Rice Prarie near Eagle Lake. Those LA gunners always took a double look when they heard my NY City accent.

Y'all have a good weekend.

Oh I gotta here that story! 70 degrees with Sunshine here.

RJ · 02-27-2011

Whenever a coonass asked what the hell is a NY City Yankee doing Goose Guiding in Texas, I politely remarked -"I'm down her to teach you people how to shoot!"

When the fool axe'd "What the hell do you mean by that?"

I reminded him that "You did lose that war, and my Gread Grand Daddy was a Sgt. In the 88th Infantry of the NY Vols. "Irish Brigade"!

At about that time my ponyo, Charles W.Stephens, III a.k.a. "Porkey"
would step in and advise the guys from Hackberry, LA that I cam from good stock!

We all sat an giggled at each other over a second helping of grits with a little straberry preserve mixed in with a dash of pepper, salt and a dash of Cayanne pepper sauce.

When I get to Slap Out, AL I'll buy you the first round, and tell y'all about Porkey!

His Momma's family owned the power company in Little Rock and he and I were Recon Squad leaders in 2nd Recon Bn, 2nd Mar. Div. early in the 1960's. Porkey did a little bidness at the Bay of Pigs.

Semper Fi Brother . I'll let you know when I'm commin!

**slapout9** · 02-28-2011

Originally Posted by RJ

When I get to Slap Out, AL I'll buy you the first round, and tell y'all about Porkey!
His Momma's family owned the power company in Little Rock and he and I were Recon Squad leaders in 2nd Recon Bn, 2nd Mar. Div. early in the 1960's. Porkey did a little bidness at the Bay of Pigs.

Sounds good. Never can tell I might know Porkey or he may know some of my Kin folks.

**slapout9** · 02-28-2011

Link to post on another thread about food,energy and security. This is the type of revolution that may be coming our way doesn't have anything to do with Reps or Dems or Budgets or religion or Beliefs of any kind. It is simply going to be about physical resources for survival and what happens when you can't afford it or can't get it

people will fight.

http://council.smallwarsjournal.com/...&postcount=120

**AdamG** · 02-28-2011

State Rep. Daniel Itse (R) of Fremont, N.H., wants to create a volunteer "permanent state defense force," separate from the New Hampshire National Guard, to assist with disaster relief and "defend the state against invasion." The legislation would require Gov. John Lynch to establish a state guard comprising an undetermined number of volunteers who sign up for one-year stints. It would have an "inactive reserve" made up of all able-bodied adult state residents, with exemptions for conscientious objectors, state and federal officials and others.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...-defense-force

RJ · 03-01-2011

It looks like the good congresswoman doesn't trust the NHNG. I wonder what she thinks about the Army Reserve and the Naval Milita in her state?

I'm surprised a Republican is taking this tack.

**82redleg** · 03-01-2011

Originally Posted by RJ

It looks like the good congresswoman doesn't trust the NHNG. I wonder what she thinks about the Army Reserve and the Naval Milita in her state?

I'm surprised a Republican is taking this tack.

Or she just wants to have something that can't be mobilized and sent out of the state. Lots of states have SDFs- the Texas State Guard, the California State Military Reserve, and the New York Guard, to name a few.
http://www.txsg.state.tx.us/
http://www.calguard.ca.gov/casmr/Pages/default.aspx
http://dmna.state.ny.us/nyg/nyg.php

There is nothing in the US Constitution that prohibits the states from maintaining a military force. What the NH state constitution says, I don't know, but this is hardly something new. According to the State Guard Association of the US, 23 of the 50 states have one http://www.sgaus.org/states/active-state-forces.html

**AdamG** · 03-01-2011

Nation of Islam leader Minister Louis Farrakhan predicted on Sunday that America faces imminent uprisings that mirror those in the Middle East.

“What you are looking at in Tunisia, in Egypt … Libya, in Bahrain … what you see happening there … you’d better prepare because it will be coming to your door,” Farrakhan said in a booming voice, thousands of followers cheering in his wake.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/n...,1665375.story

**AdamG** · 03-01-2011

Originally Posted by RJ

It looks like the good congresswoman doesn't trust the NHNG. I wonder what she thinks about the Army Reserve and the Naval Milita in her state?

I'm surprised a Republican is taking this tack.

'cause the rules say she can, and the 'militia' specifically exclude members of the National Guard or Naval Militia.

TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > Â§ 311
Â§ 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia areâ€”
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART I > CHAPTER 15 > Â§ 332
Â§ 332. Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority
Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State or Territory by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.

NH [Art.] 24. [Militia.] A well regulated militia is the proper, natural, and sure defense, of a state.

Supporting legislation:
NH CHAPTER 110-B
THE MILITIA
Section 110-B:1
110-B:1 Composition of the Militia. â€“
I. The militia shall be divided into 3 classes, namely the national guard, the state guard, and the unorganized militia.
II. The national guard shall consist of an army national guard, an air national guard, and an inactive national guard. As used in this chapter, the term "national guard" shall mean and refer to the army national guard and the air national guard unless otherwise indicated.
III. The state guard shall consist of those persons serving in accordance with the provisions of RSA 111.
IV. The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied residents of the state who are 18 years of age or older, who are, or have declared their intention to become, citizens of the United States, and who are not serving in the national guard or the state guard.
V. When authorized by the laws and regulations of the United States, there shall be an additional section of the state guard to be known as the New Hampshire naval militia.

NH CHAPTER 110-B
THE MILITIA
Section 110-B:2
110-B:2 Commander-in-Chief; Regulations. â€“ The governor shall be the commander-in-chief of the militia and is hereby authorized to issue regulations for the organization and government thereof. Such regulations shall have the same force and effect as the provisions of this chapter, but they shall conform to the laws and regulations of the United States relating to the organization, discipline, and training of the militia, to the provisions of this chapter and, as nearly as practicable, to the laws and regulations governing the army and air force of the United States. The regulations in force at the time of the passage of this chapter shall remain in force until new regulations are issued.

NH CHAPTER 110-B
THE MILITIA
Section 110-B:3
110-B:3 Registration and Draft of Unorganized Militia. â€“
I. Whenever it shall be deemed necessary, the governor may direct the members of the unorganized militia to present themselves for and submit to registration at such time and place and in such manner as the governor may prescribe in regulations issued pursuant to this chapter.
II. Whenever it shall be necessary in case of invasion, disaster, insurrection, riot, breach of the peace, or imminent danger thereof, or to maintain the national guard at the number required for public safety or prescribed by the laws of the United States, the governor may call for and accept from the unorganized militia as many volunteers as are required for service in the national guard, or the governor may direct the members of the unorganized militia or such of them as may be necessary to be drafted into the national guard.

**AdamG** · 03-02-2011

State Sen. Bill Ketron, R-Murfreesboro, has filed a senate joint resolution to study whether Tennessee should adopt its own currency in case of a breakdown of the federal reserve system.

http://blogs.tennessean.com/politics...eral-currency/

Oh boy. The bands are starting up again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjOIFGrYtaE

**anonamatic** · 03-03-2011

America has revolutions in the voting booth. That's how we do it. All the semi-survivalist end times crap is just that, a load of crap. If you want to do it with guns you're being seditious and disloyal at the very least, and you'll get put down hard. It's not even a good idea to flirt with those ideas, because when you treat them like a fun shiny toy you stop rationally looking at better options, instead all you look at is the fun shiny toy. That toy's a lot of fun right up until everyone starts dying because people are being stupid. The one thing the US civil war taught us is that killing each other is a bad idea under any circumstance, and wholly unnecessary. Things were decided in that war, important things, and people don't get to revisit them and renegotiate the outcome through violence. We have better options than that, we learned that much at least. The sort of options that can be found in a democracy where people vote.

I think the next revolution will come when instead of %60 percent of people not voting, that more than %60 vote. Voting and peaceful political participation are a part of what makes up being a good American, and keeping the values the country was built on. It's not found in selective political fundamentalism, it's not found by ignoring the present and only looking at the words you want to read from the country's founding either. That path of radical extremism is a path of ignorance and failure.

**AdamG** · 03-03-2011

Originally Posted by anonamatic

America has revolutions in the voting booth. That's how we do it. All the semi-survivalist end times crap is just that, a load of crap. If you want to do it with guns you're being seditious and disloyal at the very least, and you'll get put down hard. It's not even a good idea to flirt with those ideas, because when you treat them like a fun shiny toy you stop rationally looking at better options, instead all you look at is the fun shiny toy. That toy's a lot of fun right up until everyone starts dying because people are being stupid. The one thing the US civil war taught us is that killing each other is a bad idea under any circumstance, and wholly unnecessary. Things were decided in that war, important things, and people don't get to revisit them and renegotiate the outcome through violence. We have better options than that, we learned that much at least. The sort of options that can be found in a democracy where people vote.

Who exactly are you lecturing?

Originally Posted by anonamatic

I think the next revolution will come when instead of %60 percent of people not voting, that more than %60 vote. .

Good luck with American Apathy.

**AdamG** · 03-03-2011

It's been nearly 80 years since the U.S. stopped using gold coins as legal currency, and nearly 40 since the world abandoned the gold standard, but the precious metal could be making a comeback in the United States -- beginning in Utah.

The Utah House was to vote as early as Thursday on legislation that would recognize gold and silver coins issued by the federal government as legal currency in the state. The coins would not replace the current paper currency but would be used and accepted voluntarily as an alternative.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...-silver-coins/

**anonamatic** · 03-06-2011

Originally Posted by AdamG

Who exactly are you lecturing?

Good luck with American Apathy.

Probably some of the folks earlier in the thread who were being fairly literal about revolution...

I think apathy is starting to bottom out with the economic pressure in the US. I may be wrong though. Media in the country, and the press, is really screwed up right now.

**slapout9** · 03-08-2011

600 protesters took over the lobby of a Washington,D.C. Branch of Bank of America today. link to video below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xVGk...layer_embedded

**anonamatic** · 03-08-2011

Originally Posted by slapout9

600 protesters took over the lobby of a Washington,D.C. Branch of Bank of America today. link to video below.
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Well hey looks like I was wrong about the level of discontent present.

**AdamG** · 03-08-2011

Federal authorities are seeing an increase in the number of foreclosed and unoccupied homes in metro Atlanta being seized by members of an anti-government group.

"I'm not sure I can connect it with the economy, but we've seen a surge of these in the last year, in particular," Stephen Emmett, special agent in the Atlanta field office of the FBI, said Saturday. Emmet said federal and local authorities increasingly are running into confrontations with members of a sect known as "sovereign citizens."

The group believes banks can't own land or property and that any home owned by a bank -- including the thousands of foreclosed properties throughout Georgia -- are theirs for the taking.

http://www.ajc.com/news/clayton/fbi-...es-861611.html