Pretty sure both BDUs and DCUs got flushed out of the system through DRMO. Had a real hard time getting 'chocolate chips' for our Iraqis a few years back, too.
Dye the UCPs to some usable color.
Oh wait, that'd make sense. Sorry.
nb : an Army scheisse-hemorrhage of cash could never equal an Air Force scheisse-hemorrhage, you know that.
Last edited by AdamG; 07-10-2012 at 01:29 AM.
A scrimmage in a Border Station
A canter down some dark defile
Two thousand pounds of education
Drops to a ten-rupee jezail
http://i.imgur.com/IPT1uLH.jpg
Nothing that results in human progress is achieved with unanimous consent. (Christopher Columbus)
All great truth passes through three stages: first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
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Desert Brush, the Camo That Should Have Been
Posted on August 4, 2011
http://octactical.wordpress.com/2011...uld-have-been/
(photos there)
Desert Brush was part of the Natick camo trials to find a universal camouflage for the Army. In the end Desert Brush was the overall winner. However for some reason it was tossed aside and the decision was made to go with the current UCP instead, which wasn’t even part of the trials.
edit: Oops, got the wrong camo thread. I'm sure there's one that did not decompose yet. Maybe David can join them?
Fuchs remarked:Yes there were seven threads on matters camouflage, BCU etc, including several which featured Oprah and cartoons. All now merged here and the title amended.edit: Oops, got the wrong camo thread. I'm sure there's one that did not decompose yet. Maybe David can join them?
davidbfpo
Our turn. NZ-ACU has arrived.
Nothing that results in human progress is achieved with unanimous consent. (Christopher Columbus)
All great truth passes through three stages: first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
ONWARD
KiwiGrunt,
What is the metal tube being carried by the soldier in the foreground, that is on the right of his body? It looks like - for an amateur - to be a combat shotgun.
davidbfpo
It is indeed a (breaching) blunderbuss.
Nothing that results in human progress is achieved with unanimous consent. (Christopher Columbus)
All great truth passes through three stages: first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
ONWARD
http://soldiersystems.net/2013/09/23...ore-concerned/
The German ground forces were even worse. They invented Flecktarn during WW2, but other than a very short use of camo patterns during the 50's in the Bundeswehr and a most simple line pattern (really just parallel lines on a green cloth) in the NVA, it too until the late 80's to introduce a Flecktarn pattern evaluated during the early 70's in almost unchanged form.
Something is wrong about how military bureaucracies change their equipment.
The Army has apparently chosen a replacement for UCP. It looks a lot like MultiCam.
I put together a related blog post [LINK] (and stole Fuchs’ pic from upthread as part of it).
If you don’t read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed. – Mark Twain (attributed)
some more:
http://soldiersystems.net/?s=scorpion
http://www.kamouflage.net/country/00181.php
The chest rigs and other pouches reduce the relevance of the pattern itself to the arms, legs and helmet cover anyway. All other surfaces will be disrupted by pouches et cetera, with plenty shadows.
I suppose combat and recce troops should not rely on a camo pattern on these surfaces, but apply 3D camouflage (anything from vegetation over ghillie suits to this
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_V7Ehj7eG65...00/13rdp22.jpg
It should be possible to have an overgarment for the arms only that applies such (spray paint-adapted) camo - and it should be reversible (greenish and yellowish for summer, greenish and brownish for autumn).
Weapons aren't clothing.
The considerations are very different regarding weapons and munitions, so it's a very different topic.
The US Army has been issuing articles of equipment (packs, webbing, etc.) in the Multicam pattern for years now, and it will most likely follow the same pattern with this new (well, actually 10 years+ old) camouflage. I watched pallets of deployer bags and packs dropped off in Manas once as a battalion was flowing into theater, all in what was then referred to as the OCP (Objective Camouflage Pattern).
There are directives which govern the use of paint and various tapes to camouflage individual weapons.
The pattern is pretty much relevant to everything. The USMC has not followed the same logic.
Last edited by davidbfpo; 05-28-2014 at 09:13 AM. Reason: fix quote
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