David--you have a very valid point and the Russians tried to play the propaganda card when they gave a two day ceasefire for the civilians inside the current pocket that is in serious danger of encirclement.
On the last push over sixty busloads of "so called" Russians opted to be taken to the Ukraine--ONE single bus with 30 civilians went to mercenary held territory---they played their disinformation video twice and then no more when countered in the social media by that simple fact.
What is amazing is that right now the Russian disinformation campaign is being to a large degree countered by social media and open source analysts with no support from any western country--these countries talk a great line about having to do something but are simply so disorganized nothing gets done.
THEN such media and other orgs such as Newsweek and the HRW walk right into Russian propaganda and even continue to pass it on knowing that it is fake.
Reference the weapons discussion---it is not about giving weapons and the Ukraine charging off to Moscow---it is simply about being able to adequately defend your own sovereign territory from an invading force which is the right of every sovereign nation under the UN Charter.
The problem is the west used the term "incursion" and not "invasion".
Then it is even harder to justify weapons.
We keep forgetting in all the discussions the three core Putin geo political goals that he uses in his smokescreen called the Ukraine---and now we see his moves being telegraphed for the Baltics and Hungary :
1. disconnect the US from Europe
2. discredit NATO
3. discredit the EU
Marine Le Pen spreading RF propaganda: "US wants to start a war in Europe to push the NATO to the Russian border." pic.twitter.com/1zyEtSBNLx
#Kremlin warns the West not to issue ultimatums to #Putin as #Ukraine accuses Moscow of deploying more troops http://dailym.ai/1ESIC69
#Lugansk, just a yard with some vehicles parked, nothing unusual...
pic.twitter.com/bsaVdBqFhN
The most troubling part of Lavrov's speech was not his normal BS, but his new hint, saying Hungarian minority in UA being mistreated.
Same BMP-2 in Rostov,Russia and Uglegorsk,Ukraine
Video http://youtu.be/CJm5bjM3Z5c
http://youtu.be/7g05kXeULis
via @stabilizec pic.twitter.com/zHXrA9nqIq
Kremlin defines "anti-corruption" as "anti-government", which is perhaps more telling than it intended http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/515640.html …
Russians Advance In Ukraine, Leaving Death & Destructionhttp://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/re...erm=.xyEkOZrgM … Rebels don't destroy their own towns.They're Russians!
While the West talks and talks and talks and talks and yet have not figured out diplomacy has utterly failed.
Sanctions while great missed the chance to use SWIFT and now will not use it based on Russian threats.
The pocket of Debaltseve closes, trapping thousands of Ukrainian troops: http://wp.me/p5sx0x-9ipic.twitter.com/F122L4yhOF
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