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    Possible SS-21 missile launch by #Ukraine troops near Artemovsk this afternoon
    pic.twitter.com/1FDUwxqia1

    After taking #Nikishyne #Russia|n tank forces attacked Ukrainian checkpoints between #Mius and #Fashchivka.
    Via @Conflict_Report

    Today, courtesy of @Reuters this #Russia|n armed forces T-64БB tank is seen driving thru #Donetsk flying "DPRs" flag: pic.twitter.com/KM1KMkl44W

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    A disguised column of #Russia|n armed forces "peacekeepers" in #Makiivka nr #Donetsk #Ukraine
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q88q5DHB2BQ … pic.twitter.com/Ms4QstjI7D

    Russian joke. General: Your husband is hybridely alive on business trip in Ukraine. Wife: He's killed??!! General: Hush, state treason.

    Harriet Salem @HarrietSalem
    Shells hitting all over #Donetsk tonight, one of the heaviest I've encountered. Ground shaking, windows rattling. Tbh terrifying

    "Local Rebels" from Kazan in Debaltseve/Ukraine pic.twitter.com/VjLydAPLm

    The entire Ukrainian front -from Stanitsia Luhanska over Krymske,Vodyane, Pisky until Hranitne- was under Grad/mortar/arty fire today.

    There was another Russian army storming attempt in the area of #Stanitsia_Luhanska today, which was repelled acc. to the Ukr army.

    Locals from #Debabaltseve leave the town as the artillery duel between government and Russia backed separatists goes pic.twitter.com/oorYCQTJmQ

    "Putin's paid "locals" don't even know where they are. pic.twitter.com/jTmBJXqSJi

    Actually, Zakharchenko ("DNR") and Plotnitskiy ("LNR") signed Sept 5 Minsk protocol. AND now they demand a "new Minsk demarcation line".

    #Debaltseve: 2 buses & city hall - evac. point fo civilians shelled by terrorists. 12 wounded. http://tsn.ua/ato/u-debalcevomu-pid-...li-406477.html … pic.twitter.com/cxq9LAps0h

    Question as I watch Western media: Since when are Russian spetsnaz troops in #Ukraine "insurgents."Enough of newspeak already

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    Three different comments that allude to the fact that the Russo Ukrainian war is drifting into a 1914 style European war.

    The West still wants to talk and have not fully realized Putin is no longer willing to talk--he is letting the military do the talking for him and yet the West does not see it.

    A Norwegian military listening post intercepted cockpit conversations revealing that one of the Tu-95 flying around the coast of Norway last Wednesday had a nuclear payload onboard. Two F-16s were scrambled from Bod airbase and met the Russian planes outside Finnmark.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHBJnoYIj0w Killing thy neighbor, looting their home. Some #Russians think #God OKs it. #Ukraine #Russia pic.twitter.com/kXnsLgU192

    Headquarters of joint Ukrainian-Russian center tasked with overseeing the ceasefire shelled in Debaltsevo. Allegory? http://www.wsj.com/articles/shelling...ter-1422815165

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    Main repair base of RU military equipment exploded and burns in #Donetsk http://zloy-odessit.livejournal.com/1107203.html
    pic.twitter.com/ygI5UQtiTH

    Near Mariupol Ukrainian fighters intercepted the militants drone http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/1-febru...ntercepted-the

    VIDEO #Russia troops attack #Debaltseve fr Bryanka w tanks but was repulsd by #Ukraine forces
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jci5ymxwfBw … pic.twitter.com/BUVREiHVdt

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    Appears that Ukrainian IT types have build a massive social media database and are sweeping Russian sites and incorporating what they find into this database to be used by Ukrainian police and military when they arrest and or take prisoners.

    This blows my mind: Ukrainian database of social media presence of Eastern Ukrainian "terrorists"
    https://psb4ukr.org/criminal/ @katypearce

    "Peacemaker"
    RESEARCH CENTRE FEATURES OF CRIMES AGAINST UKRAINE'S NATIONAL SECURITY, PEACE, SECURITY AND HUMANITY international law

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdVIXvAwIdw#Israel: #Russian-language channel compares "#Somalia" #Russians (irregulars) in #Ukraine to #ISIS

    IMAGES #Ukraine troops in #Debaltseve waiting, preparing for #Putin troops attack. #Donetsk #Luhansk #Russia pic.twitter.com/vg7xiRzgkI

    Putin is Milosevic but worse, and only arms can stop arms in Ukraine, argues Timothy Garton Ash http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...P=share_btn_tw
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    Ukrainian officer becomes Internet hero after saving Russian soldier's life
    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...fe/515165.html
    via @MoscowTimes

    VIDEO #Ukraine armored column moving near #Debaltseve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4FGaDsyA4
    pic.twitter.com/1Mv33N1mDO

    "#Putin could destroy NATO with one phone call" - Vesti.Ru removed the article from its page.
    http://pressa.today/politics/udalyay...onnym-zvonkom/ … pic.twitter.com/UvDDdPcMUw

    Though constantly under fire #Debaltseve is under Ukr control. In #Vuhlehirsk militants r in a fire trap - NSDC http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2015/02/1/7057095/

    Ukr artillery destroyed a convoy (equip, artil, manpower) heading to reinforce militants' offensive on #Debaltseve https://www.facebook.com/zoryan.zory...47866145274334

    #Oucht!
    Russian state TV own goal
    . pic.twitter.com/2j7F7C4DdI

    VIDEO #RUSSIAN SOLDIERS having tea outside #Vuhlehirsk near #Debaltseve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxjJZgbehfY … pic.twitter.com/ePza3PFrwf

    Russian Armor Spotted In Uglegorsk (Vuhlehirsk) West Of Debaltsevo
    http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...-attacks/#6602 … pic.twitter.com/t9JKuB7r4n

    #Donetsk region governor (Ukraine-appointed) may cut electricity supply to Donetsk amid shelling of Debaltseve
    http://www.ostro.org/general/society/news/463419/

    How a general Russian attack to occupy the corridor to Crimea will unfold https://viewsonrussia.wordpress.com/...dor-to-crimea/

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    The latest in the Russian theater of "altered state of reality".

    Not even sure he knows what he is talking about? And the West thinks "talking" is going to go somewhere?

    RUS MP:"We need 24 hours to leave Council of Europe to execute millions & millions prisoners"
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tPi-f-iaoMk … pic.twitter.com/IyZ1yjvKKd

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    There is a current series of actions that fully indicate that in fact and contrary to what US media and US decision makers have been saying and doing there is a full blown Central European War going on that could in effect be called the Russo Ukrainian War v2 as v1 was in 1919.

    The West seemingly assumed rather falsely that one could in fact negotiate with a Russian fascist intent on empire building and that the "rules of diplomacy" of the 19/20th centuries applied to the 21st century.

    Putin has rewritten those rules and yet the West still thinks they will somehow work---now 13K Russian troops inside the Ukraine later, with 50K sitting directly on the border and literally hundreds of Russian heavy tanks, artillery, MLRSs and APC not to mention fuel and munitions being regularly supplied under the guise of "humanitarian relief supplies" the West is still attempting to come to terms with the apparent failure of "diplomacy ie soft power".

    Now there is talk of supplying the UA with weapons and NOW we are getting the standard Russian threat thrown back at the West BUT Putin just keeps on supplying both troops and weapons on top of the Russian threats against Bosnia for supplying munitions to the Ukraine.

    Duma deputy warns of ”irrevocable consequences“ if the US does indeed provide Ukraine with weapons http://ria.ru/world/20150202/1045454773.html


    When will the West ie the US finally learn to stand up and state we are shipping weapons as you ship weapons and then release all intelligence data that has been collected to the UN GA, UNSC, OSCE, PACE and the EU Parliament and then let's see if Russia decides war is the way forward.

    Meaning---We will stop shipping weapons when you stop shipping--we will provide military trainers until you pull out "your so called vacationers" and match move for move. That is in effect true leadership---all the talking the EU and US has done has achieved absolutely nothing.

    With the current Russian ethno nationalism ie fascism driving their decision making processes only the true threat of "force" will get Putin's attention.

    Myself and others have said this since the Crimea and nothing has changed that perspective--the West has greatly underestimated the impact of a Russian styled fascism on this current Russian leadership. It has in fact taken until this month to start even seeing articles in western media begin to discuss Russian fascism ie their "Holy War" with the West

    Anything else is just an utter waste of everyone's time and at the same time displays the total lack of unity among Western leaders which in Moscow is being interpreted as a "sign of weakness".
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    Putin has new plan on how to blend Russian troops & "vacationers" in Donetsk with 100,000 men force "mobilization" http://tvrain.ru/articles/zaharchenk..._v_dnr-381405/
    Donetsk rebels announce plans to draft 100,000 people, which is twice the current size of the Ukrainian army. http://ria.ru/world/20150202/1045450550.html


    First ever footage from the #Russia|n army's western front in #Kalynove. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jowC_DzwifY … pic.twitter.com/OR0uERNn

    Russia's main assault on #Debaltseve Ukraine is now a frontal attack involving large regular Russian army units pic.twitter.com/wEn21MtXgY

    Ukrainian military beat off the attack of Russian-backed militants in #Debaltseve http://uatoday.tv/politics/ukrainian...ve-406486.html … pic.twitter.com/xUK8b0eHAq

    Tymchuk: 3,5 k #Russia troops, 35 tanks, 90 BMPs fight against #Ukraine army in #Debaltsevo lodgement pic.twitter.com/55gzntW5ZS

    In #Taganrog, Rostov region, Russia: BM-27 Uragan "Hurricane" MLRS. On route to near #Mariupol? pic.twitter.com/T8iJr2S6T2

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    Russian invasion forces have KamAZ 63968 "Typhoon" AVs, used by spetsnaz (via @InformNapalm) https://informnapalm.org/5462-novejs...yl-vtorzhenyya … pic.twitter.com/8kh2tyBo1L

    New #footage from south of #Vuhlehirsk,where Russian army #sappers recover own damaged tanks.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofkMwgo8Elg … pic.twitter.com/TDbmo29veW

    UAA general working with @OSCE_SMM shows RU army attacks increased on #Debaltseve since RU mil observers left Jan.19 pic.twitter.com/3jIZxRmBuq

    Russian Eastern Military District receives «Krasukha-S4» EW System via @RostecRussia http://rostec.ru/news/4515432 pic.twitter.com/suzMKT6VPk

    Rebel-backed Russians before they attacked Vuhlehirsk some days ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtyblzm7I4M … pic.twitter.com/IP5vF2ZDur

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    First the Russian FSB arrests a Russian mother of seven for calling the Ukrainian embassy and telling them a GRU Brigade was headed to the Ukraine because her son was in the Brigade---and now the same Russian government “claims the GRU Brigade did not go at all”—then why did they arrest here for treason and by the way she is still in jail?

    Russians now denying 201st deployment, if they do it'll be on the spot for sure. Cat is out of the bag.


    A Russia army sappers armored engineer tractor had some problem with the ground...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiF8z9-F_FQ … pic.twitter.com/JihMrtnYWe

    Shelling of #Popasna goes on. Town is turning into ruins. "Grad" systems used most likely from Stahanov.
    pic.twitter.com/RuJj1cELro

    Before #NATO can re-engage w/ #Russia, #Kremlin must de-escalate in E. #Ukraine, stop sending rebels weapons & implement Minsk Agmt in full

    Russian commandant of #Perevalsk raion colonel Shirko Genadiy Semenovich is dead. They tried to assault #Chernukhine.

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    Current Ukrainian Army positions and Russian troop positions around and in the Debaltseve pocket—Ukrainian artillery and tank units have been rather surprisingly successful in their defensive postures-russian losses in equipment and manpower have been high even among the Russian elite units. pic.twitter.com/cGzhYCWHga.

    #Footage
    Captured fighters admit: "We were trained by the Russian army in Russian tanks. Training was near #Torez"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x12U...-ts=1422579428

    Regular Russian army fighting near Debaltseve - Shkiryak http://24today.net/open/294240

    #Footage
    The Russian front near #Vuhlehirsk.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hr7m3ScmIA
    BTR-80 and BMP-2
    pic.twitter.com/z1EhswqsHb

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    There is a current series of actions that fully indicate that in fact and contrary to what US media and US decision makers have been saying and doing there is a full blown Central European War going on that could in effect be called the Russo Ukrainian War v2 as v1 was in 1919.

    The West seemingly assumed rather falsely that one could in fact negotiate with a Russian fascist intent on empire building and that the "rules of diplomacy" of the 19/20th centuries applied to the 21st century.

    Putin has rewritten those rules and yet the West still thinks they will somehow work---now 13K Russian troops inside the Ukraine later, with 50K sitting directly on the border and literally hundreds of Russian heavy tanks, artillery, MLRSs and APC not to mention fuel and munitions being regularly supplied under the guise of "humanitarian relief supplies" the West is still attempting to come to terms with the apparent failure of "diplomacy ie soft power".

    Now there is talk of supplying the UA with weapons and NOW we are getting the standard Russian threat thrown back at the West BUT Putin just keeps on supplying both troops and weapons on top of the Russian threats against Bosnia for supplying munitions to the Ukraine.

    Duma deputy warns of ”irrevocable consequences“ if the US does indeed provide Ukraine with weapons http://ria.ru/world/20150202/1045454773.html


    When will the West ie the US finally learn to stand up and state we are shipping weapons as you ship weapons and then release all intelligence data that has been collected to the UN GA, UNSC, OSCE, PACE and the EU Parliament and then let's see if Russia decides war is the way forward.

    Meaning---We will stop shipping weapons when you stop shipping--we will provide military trainers until you pull out "your so called vacationers" and match move for move. That is in effect true leadership---all the talking the EU and US has done has achieved absolutely nothing.

    With the current Russian ethno nationalism ie fascism driving their decision making processes only the true threat of "force" will get Putin's attention.

    Myself and others have said this since the Crimea and nothing has changed that perspective--the West has greatly underestimated the impact of a Russian styled fascism on this current Russian leadership. It has in fact taken until this month to start even seeing articles in western media begin to discuss Russian fascism ie their "Holy War" with the West

    Anything else is just an utter waste of everyone's time and at the same time displays the total lack of unity among Western leaders which in Moscow is being interpreted as a "sign of weakness".
    Some inside NATO are finally awakening to the realization of Russian aggression having gone on far longer than just now with the Ukraine---starting way back in 2008 and actually as far back as 1992 if one really analyzes Russian aggressive actions against it's neighboring countries since the Wall fell.

    Russia’s aggression against Ukraine reflects evolving pattern of behavior that has been emerging for several years - NATO's Vershbow.

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    For those SWJ commenters that are tracking the capabilities of the new Russian military equipment especially the Pantsir S-1 that Iran really wants along with the S300.

    Check this:

    First hits by the "Pantsir S-1" ?!
    Ukrainian Toshka-U "shot down near #Luhansk".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbCD-7If2Ig
    #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/qR58Yb7ES5

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NapnJYhaRDU#Russians ("rebels") claim downing #Ukrainian SS-21(spent booster).With what?# pic.twitter.com/1FGp52tD8s

    #Russia Air Force combat capable transport! Il-76MD armed with practice bombs during exercise
    http://www.ilyushin.org/press/media/gallery/242/ … pic.twitter.com/T8dtF5N4TU

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    French volunteers (French fascists) fighting in Donbas have resurfaced in this Lenta interview. http://lenta.ru/articles/2015/02/02/france/?t

    MRLS BM-27 Uragan systems delivered by IL-76 to Taganrog, Russia. In hurry?
    http://sprotyv.info/ru/news/12257-v-...gumkonvoy-pod-
    mariupol-foto … pic.twitter.com/Rdi55CkaKx"

    Highway area between #Karlivka & #Pisky was invaded by an enemy group of subversive-intelligence agents: pic.twitter.com/eUElYfeTKk

    pro-Rus/Russian troops've tried 5 attempts to take Debaltseve in the last 24 hours http://interfax.com.ua/news/general/248146.html

    Hui!
    Heavy shelling in #Nyzhnya_Krynka today. 20 km deep inside Russian-held soil.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKG1UFppeFE
    #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/N6HP2hMEFy

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    In over a very long year for the Ukrainian military they have gone from rag tag groups of hollow units mainly depending on "volunteer" fighting groups to being able to hold their own rather successfully in the latest round of fighting Russia troops and their supported mercenaries and even against Russian SF/GRU/Airborne elite units.

    The US Army has attempted for over three years now to instill "Mission Command" into the force and preserve the idea of being an "adaptive force" and still struggles with it.

    There is something to having to reform, retrain and re-motivate a hollow force in the middle of fighting--we often forget our own Army developments starting at Lexington until the support of the French at Yorktown.

    While the Google translation leaves much to be desired one gets the feeling from the twitter pic that the Ukrainian Army is learning and adapting faster to MC than the entire US Army and is fighting with élan with older equipment and winter hand me downs supplied by volunteers from their civil society and from some NATO countries---while we the US still talk about support on the lethal defensive aid side.

    Goes to show that one can develop an army in the middle of a war with your back to the wall "without OCO money and defense contractors".

    Granted their senior leadership is weak and bad but it seems their combat units from COL down to the Private are fighting extremely well considering the sheer amount of heavy armor and artillery they are facing with little to no drones and EW/jamming equipment.

    The situation in #Vuhlehirsk according to Ukraine's Butusov:
    https://www.facebook.com/butusov.yur...23313081042322
    Thx to @ig2k for mentioning. pic.twitter.com/17GWGTXZQJ
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    The Russian "altered state of reality" is getting stranger and stranger lately.

    Russian want dialogue but cannot even hold to the Minsk Agreement they even signed in Sept 2014 and somehow NATO is to blame for everything.

    TASS ✔ @tassagency_en
    Russia still interested in strategic dialogue with EU — diplomat http://tass.ru/en/russia/774840

    Here is the new #propaganda line by #Putin:
    #NATO did it! #Russia|ns in #Donbas are being killed by #NATO's legion. pic.twitter.com/GctwNGIoAB

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    The enemy threw 1200 people and new vehicles in #Debal'tseve pic.twitter.com/Ay9zsEa10O http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/2-febru...ew-vehicles-in

    #Russia|n brig."Batman"http://bit.ly/1uQIlYQ : confirm defeat under Debaltseve:Audio-http://bit.ly/1zvsa93 pic.twitter.com/kidPfdF5i4

    Russian conscripts ‘refusing to be sent to war in Ukraine’ http://www.unian.info/war/1039107-ru...n-ukraine.html

    Russian invaders attempted to storm the front between #Fashchivka and Mius twice today, once backed by tanks. pic.twitter.com/4dDgStCu7A

    Breaking: #Ukraine army sources confirm to me, @obk and @burskayaz that 9 Rus marines from Ulyanovsk were captured by Ukrainians last Friday

    VIDEO #Russia pull all troops,weapons towards #Debaltseve? Roads to #Donetsk Airport empty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6tz...=85114404#t=27 … pic.twitter.com/QjnxusUi9H

    Source: Ukr on outskirts of #Uglegorsk, to left of Debaltsevo bottlneck. "Town itself not strategic enough 4 offensive. Not worth dying for"

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    Reliable Ukr military source re #Debaltsevo: "Situation stable critical, but risk of pocket reduced. Perhaps 20-30%"

    ex-DNR commnder & Novorossiya cult hero Igor Strelkov says he’s “ready" to be mobilized for further duty in #Ukraine https://www.facebook.com/sputpom/pho...318041/?type=1

    Russian invaders fire #Grad missiles at south of #Donetsk "to stop the Ukr advance".
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZOnj3zMiNc … pic.twitter.com/ig020zXdda

    #Russia units spotted in #Vuhlehirsk, west of #Debaltseve, engaging #Ukraine forces in battle 4 strategic crossroads http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...-attacks/#6602

    Warehouses with Russian Military Equipment&Ammunition in Donetsk Oblast https://en.informnapalm.org/warehous...onetsk-oblast/ … via @en_informnapalm pic.twitter.com/2cQGAwDUIP

    A must read. Twitter community ridicules Putin remark of destroying NATO with a phone call http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-.../26826215.html

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    UA Mi24 Attack helicopters over #Artemovsk heading for #Debaltseve. pic.twitter.com/vBYBQJtqDP
    UA Mi-24 attack choppers, but on a medevac mission.

    New footage of the Russian army 2S7
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUIuzVyFwgQ … pic.twitter.com/onI1R4kqRv

    Russians leave boobytraps everywhere they have been... v2015в2015 pic.twitter.com/FAcBpTMSJ4

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