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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Ah......the speed of social media----one has to like it----wonder if the US IC is this fast--concerning Russian Spetnaz POWs and the Assad Army taking a beating. Wait long enough and social media will have their entire life histories if they placed it into the net.

    The other Russian POW is badly wounded and gets medical help. (Russia tortures and executes Ukrainian POWS!).
    pic.twitter.com/HeCr2Z2ONh

    VK-page of Alexander Russian Spetnaz captured near Shchastya
    http://vk.com/id66695424
    via @tombreadley

    Alexander Alexandrov from Togliatti is one of these 2 Russian POWs pic.twitter.com/xwKpESJoKO

    Facebook page reporting about the two captured Russian GRU officers near Schastya.
    https://www.facebook.com/mil.in.ua/p...514378/?type=1 … pic.twitter.com/MUBZ4xkoim

    Kremlin again denies that Russian soldiers were taken POWhttp://goo.gl/X3ifXl
    #UAF black humor. #Lavrov says he got lost trying to find his lost friends. pic.twitter.com/XASxgCmGar

    This is his unit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_Gu...etsnaz_Brigade … He called his colonel Щепин Schepin which has been in charge of the unit since 2010

    Wounded captain of the 3rd brigade of GRU SoF Erofeev and Sergeant Alexandrovpic.twitter.com/yQVkPO0zu2

    Sgt.Aleksandrov also says
    -his group of 14, goal:surveillance
    -he wasn't tortured
    -he is a contract soldier
    -there's another 1 Rus group

    A bit more than a claim! Here's another GRU in Novoazovsk districthttps://twitter.com/GorseFires/statu...78369164603392

    Russian GRU 2nd Independent Spetsnaz Brigade: Nikolay Semenov (VDV) in #Novoazovsk district Ukraine (11 May photo up) pic.twitter.com/GHF9TGhO8s

    People's army of the LNR has announced that two of their fighters have been captured by UA army. https://twitter.com/rianru/status/599980698368356352
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    Perfect example of ethnic Russian Ukrainian proRussian supporters calling the kettle blacker than black--what a turn of events.

    #Luhansk #communists complain about oppression, call LNR leaders fascist, oligarchic http://vlada.io/vlada_news/kommunist...nr-fashistami/ … pic.twitter.com/SyqLpq8tmr

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    I have also written here many times that that the Russian UW doctrine of non linear warfare is in direct support to the current Russian political warfare--non linear warfare is simply the "means" to drive to a political warfare "end state".

    Putin who believes in the destruction of western neo liberalism and is basically an up and coming Russian "fascist" on an neo imperialistic expansion campaign repeatedly has stated his three geo political goals to achieve Russian hegemon status over all of Europe and an equal footing with the US via what he has often referred to as his wanting "a new Yalta" to divide up the world between the US and Russia into new "spheres of influence" which Russia states as their ability to have "equality of control". Yet we seem to not understand this particular term BUT the Baltics and Poland does understand.

    His three geo political goals are:

    1. discrediting and damaging for good NATO
    2. discrediting and damaging for good the EU
    AND
    3 total disconnecting of the US from Europe ----in order to achieve his vision of a Europe from Portugal to the Russian Far East UNDER Russian political/military/economic dominance.

    He is not shy in the least bit in stating and restating these goals.

    AND what is the WH, NSC and DoS response to all of the above--silence, silence and more silence ALL in the name of a "legacy"--does that make sense to any SWJ reader.

    BTW on the three targeted geo political goals Russia via Putin is about 75% of the way to his "end state" and the current US leadership is helping and helping and helping him met his stated goals.

    Have never seen in the last 40 years such a weak NSC and an equally weak President and yet we claim to "led the free world"????
    Any SWJ reader think Putin is truly interested in full implementation of Minsk 2????--I do not.

    Ukraine under Occupation: Russian Army establish 5th Donetsk Independent Motor Rifle Brigade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmrK...ature=youtu.be … pic.twitter.com/wj39tRFQzh

    16 May. This Russian Army officer appears to be Cmdr of 5th Donetsk Independent Motor Rifle Brigade. Any more info?pic.twitter.com/2HRWb7mCHI

    So much for Putin and his Foreign Minister wanting a full implementation of Minsk 2----.

    Terrorists stopped 4 cars of OSCE for inspection at a roadblock near Pervomaiskpic.twitter.com/Hcag1ed3K6 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/17-may-...-inspection-at
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    16:37 #Shakhtarsk @Helgi__UA 5 new Ural trucks w/troops tow/#Donetsk

    12:02 #Donetsk @Serzzze a BMP via Kalinovka westwards

    @tassagency_en: Iskander-M missile systems to be deployed in #Kaliningrad region till 2018 http://tass.ru/en/russia/795113 … [via @VeikoSpolitis
    The SS-21 is a nuclear capable tactical missile able to hit Berlin.

    Moskal: "RIP, Heroes!" Hunter vehicle tripped land mine near Popasna killing three, wounding one http://en.censor.net.ua/n336486 17 May

    Russian forces provoke Ukrainian soldiers to open fire in #Shyrokyne http://en.censor.net.ua/n336487 17 May
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    http://uaposition.com/the-osce-gave-...llip-a-karber/

    The OSCE gave to the terrorists in Ukraine coordinates of Ukrainian forces
    Posted on Sunday, 17 May, 2015 - 19:03

    Dr. Phillip A. Karber, the President of the Potomac Foundation, expert in defense and national security matters, presented the report “Beyond Minsk II: Prospects for a new Russian offensive”.

    Phillip A. Karber states that the OSCE inspectors are ineffective and have never been used to monitor any military activities:

    “The OSCE was never intended to oversee military operations. I characterize them more as marriage counselors rather than divorce lawyers,” Karber said.

    The President of the Potomac Foundation said that during his visit to Mariupol the Russian observers from the OSCE in Ukraine recorded the coordinates of the Ukrainian forces with the use of their mobile phones:

    “The idea is that they will do their job, to insist on inspections and fast reports… They are just not able to do that because the team includes the Russians. When I was in Mariupol, the number of Russian observers was much higher than [the number of] representatives of other countries. They went near the positions of the Ukrainian military and input the coordinates of their location in their mobile phones. The OSCE is not an independent body.”

    In addition Phillip A. Karber says that the OSCE inspectors have no access to the Russian-Ukrainian border, where the Russian forces cross the border and deliver the goods and equipment to terrorists from the illegal republics in Eastern Ukraine.

    “The OSCE inspectors have only 25% of the time that was to be initially granted to them at their disposal, 50% in other regions Even though – any inspection or operation needs to be authorized by the Russians either way,”underlined Phillip A. Karber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Here's the key points from today's Volkskrant article on the downing of #MH17, lots of good stuff https://www.facebook.com/bellingcat/...88738477981276
    bellingcat @bellingcat
    60 Minutes #MH17 report http://www.9news.com.au/world/2015/0...uction-of-mh17

    Redundant YouTube links for the video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4zZzbzqcPU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUoFKqyGzjk
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    #UAF black humor. #Lavrov says he got lost trying to find his lost friends. pic.twitter.com/XASxgCmGar

    This is his unit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_Gu...etsnaz_Brigade … He called his colonel Щепин Schepin which has been in charge of the unit since 2010

    Wounded captain of the 3rd brigade of GRU SoF Erofeev and Sergeant Alexandrovpic.twitter.com/yQVkPO0zu2

    Sgt.Aleksandrov also says
    -his group of 14, goal:surveillance
    -he wasn't tortured
    -he is a contract soldier
    -there's another 1 Rus group

    A bit more than a claim! Here's another GRU in Novoazovsk districthttps://twitter.com/GorseFires/statu...78369164603392

    Russian GRU 2nd Independent Spetsnaz Brigade: Nikolay Semenov (VDV) in #Novoazovsk district Ukraine (11 May photo up) pic.twitter.com/GHF9TGhO8s

    People's army of the LNR has announced that two of their fighters have been captured by UA army. https://twitter.com/rianru/status/599980698368356352
    Come on Russian mercenaries you have got to get a far better cover story going here—they were captured long before you basically admitted they were captured.

    At 19:01 "LNR" reported, UKR group intruded their territory and captured 2 POWs. Poor fantasy @LUGANSK_TODAY pic.twitter.com/G7wmP5OSua

    Just what the heck of a propaganda story are they selling to well trained Spetnaz personnel OR there has been some rumors the Russia has been organ harvesting of wounded Ukrainian POWs before executing them so maybe Spetnaz believes the same will happen to them.

    Captured officers asked doctors to operate without anesthesia, cause they afraid their organs will be cut for sale pic.twitter.com/QepZoSgEps

    We used to avoid publishing faces of POWs. But scum from Russian GRU killed two of our colleagues recently. So... pic.twitter.com/euVDy3AN4e

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhRUb6JTD50 … Meet 1 of 2 'rebels' fr 3rd Guards Spetsnaz Bde (#Tolyatti, #Russia) captured in #Shchastia, #Luhansk Obl

    From his interview:
    The"6-8" refers t # groups working fr Luhansk->as he says they work "autonomously",he may not be sure they r Russian, rats out only 1 group!
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    Clashes today indicate tht Russians are clearly increasing their activity in new spots on th frontline.It's not only Shyrokyne&Pisky anymore

    2 wounded fighters of batallion #Azov in #Shyrokyne

    #BREAKINGNEWS
    #Russia|n Forces fire with GRAD-MLRS on #Ukraine positions today
    #donetsk #luhansk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbAhNCONQ8Y … …

    @14720Maro Track traces point out, they crossed Kuprina and along Pukhova went fr/there. 10-12 troops on each armour.

    #Donetsk @14720Maro Abt 5pm 4 BMD (1st 'Sparta' marked), Ural trucks, fuel truck along Ivan Tkachenko St tow/center

    FYI, @EgoRZemtsoV is photographer with Russian main intel directorate (yes, GRU) been assigned for months in Donbas.

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    Remember recently when the Russian FM and the Russian MoD basically called the US statement that there were Russian AD systems close to and in the contact line a "lie".

    Both stated there were absolutely NO Russian AD systems inside the Ukraine THEN this:

    #Breaking
    Ukrainian drone films #RussianArmy 9K35 Strela-10 in #Oktyabr, 25 km from #Mariupol

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbXWMTLIXiQ … pic.twitter.com/PDqBFcZXPl

    So who is actually lying these days?????

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    Bloomberg: #Russia to spend more on war with #Ukraine , and less on their health (A message to all Russians) #Moscow
    http://ukraineenglishnewsforum.creat...g6781/#msg6781

    Nothing like a little Russian "fascism".

    New Russian textbooks must stress existence of ‘Great Russian Aryan Race,’ Duma deputy says http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/05/1...a-deputy-says/

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Seems American social media companies to include PayPal seem to want to truly believe they do not live in a "political world". In the current 21st century--there is no such animal called "non political".

    Russian oligarch and "black money" has flowed heavily into Twitter---to the tune of 700M USD, unlisted heavy inflow by Russian oligarch into Face Book both as investments but also in controlling the European FB operations, massive Russian oligarch monies into YouTube and Paypal as so called "investments.

    So the question becomes are in fact US companies "beholden" and answer to the current Russian information warfare campaign?

    It is interesting that currently GlobalVoices was able to identify recently a 20,000 Russian bot system using Twitter and FB for spreading Russian propaganda and disinformation AND they were not blocked BUT countless western and Ukrainian accounts which support the Ukraine and western journalists are being blocked for reasons sometimes really vague by Russian accounts--AND not much in the way of responses by the US companies on their apparently proRussian "political" stances.

    In the Information Age, you'd think a giant like Facebook would be prepared for the Information War
    https://twitter.com/euromaidanpress/...07890786258944

    Users in #Ukraine Complain of @Facebook #Censorship; Zuckerberg Says Censored Posts Are Hate Speech http://globalvoicesonline.org/2015/0...answer-enough/ … by @tanyalokot
    Seems that Face Book censored and removed this photo after Russian trolls complained about--without checking at all.

    Where is graphic violence? Russian Trolls target picture of mourning child.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32720965 … pic.twitter.com/hGrlYhlj3j

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    #UAF black humor. #Lavrov says he got lost trying to find his lost friends. pic.twitter.com/XASxgCmGar

    This is his unit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_Gu...etsnaz_Brigade … He called his colonel Щепин Schepin which has been in charge of the unit since 2010

    Wounded captain of the 3rd brigade of GRU SoF Erofeev and Sergeant Alexandrovpic.twitter.com/yQVkPO0zu2

    Sgt.Aleksandrov also says
    -his group of 14, goal:surveillance
    -he wasn't tortured
    -he is a contract soldier
    -there's another 1 Rus group

    A bit more than a claim! Here's another GRU in Novoazovsk districthttps://twitter.com/GorseFires/statu...78369164603392

    Russian GRU 2nd Independent Spetsnaz Brigade: Nikolay Semenov (VDV) in #Novoazovsk district Ukraine (11 May photo up) pic.twitter.com/GHF9TGhO8s

    People's army of the LNR has announced that two of their fighters have been captured by UA army. https://twitter.com/rianru/status/599980698368356352
    Captured Russian soldiers, the captain of the 3rd Brigade and Special Forces Sergeant Alexander Yerofeyev, testified how their team is fighting against Ukraine.

    They belonged to the 3rd separate Guards brigade of special purpose GRU of the General Staff (3rd separate Guards Warsaw-Berlin Red Banner Order of Suvorov III level team of special purpose / h 21208, city Togliatti, the brigade commander - Colonel Guard Schepin SA).

    Interesting military unit honorifics

    They arrived at the territory controlled by the rebels in March 2015 as part of its brigades and divisions to carry out combat reconnaissance and sabotage missions against the forces of ATU.

    May 16 it was tasked to reconnoitre the Lugansk TES for future operations.

    Reconnaissance group commander, Captain Evgeny Erofeev (18.01.1985 GN, a native of Kuibyshev, Russia, callsign "Dolphin")

    Senior intelligence officer, Sergeant service contract Alexander A. Alexandrov (07.01.1987 GN, a native of Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, Russian Federation, callsign "Alex").

    RU media are in denial that captured RU soldiers confessed on tape to being regular Spetznaz. Here's the RU version > http://ria.ru/world/20150517/1065013925.html

    So, the captured #Russia|n soldiers admit they are Spetsnaz but Trolls still claim it's 'militia fighters'? Can't stop laughing..

    LNR "government" says two of its "rebel fighters" were captured by Ukraine. Same rebel fighters who admitted they are RU regular soldiers

    I am Russian soldier, says this man, captured by Ukrainian forces near Shchastya, while his country abandoned him... pic.twitter.com/xS6fhiWAjn

    Russian POW: Well, Alexander Alexandrov won't be seeing his girlfriends for a long time... pic.twitter.com/oIK1NVyrKW

    Vadim Pugachev, killed by Russian GRU Spetsnaz (fr. Tolliatti) in #Schastya.
    Russian defending his land #Ukraine RIP pic.twitter.com/KfxwT8LpKK
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    Appears that the recent Russian mercenary loses are actually quite high.

    The Ukrainian Army must be doing something right.

    Fresh graves with wooden crosses stretching to horizon in rebel military cemetery photographed in #Donetsk https://twitter.com/PierreCrom/statu...91315703685121

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    Plenty more photos of Russian Ground Forces training in Donetsk region, Ukraine May 2015 https://vk.com/album-93369497_215422239 … pic.twitter.com/u5DpvhOSaW

    E #Ukraine was artificially resettled by Russians/Belarusians after 1932/33 Holodomor genocide
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/05/1...in-the-donbas/ … pic.twitter.com/A6Pm1MJFCg

    ISIS Militants Use Popular Russian Web Payment System To Raise Cash http://www.rferl.org/content/islamic.../27021379.html … prin @RFERL

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    Russians used mortars to try to kill their own captured officers!!
    http://www.unian.ua/war/1078873-rech...i-vchinki.html … pic.twitter.com/tAFajvB7kE

    Talk about the length Russia will go to ---to have plausible deniably
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    Russia is attempting to open a new front.

    The "people's republic of Besarabia" just held its second conference

    http://maidantranslations.com/2015/0...freesavchenko/

    Dmitry Tymchuk: Regarding the “national-cultural autonomy of Bessarabia”

    Posted on May 17, 2015 by chervonaruta

    Translated and edited by Voices of Ukraine

    Regarding the “national-cultural autonomy of Bessarabia:”

    Yesterday, on May 16th in Odesa, the so-called “People’s Council of Bessarabia” held its second conference, at which they presented some “draft law on the national and cultural autonomy of the Bessarabian Region.”

    This is a new round of the Russian special service’s activities on the territory of Ukraine. While preparing a large-scale offensive in Donbas, the Kremlin is also trying to ignite a “second front,” so as to destabilize the situation in the South as much as possible, and divert our defense forces and equipment from the ATO zone. At the same time [the Kremlin] is testing the waters for further splitting Ukraine and stealing its territories using a third scenario (after the first two: the bloodless “Crimean scenario” and the bloody “Donbas” one). The proximity of a Russian military springboard in the form of Transnistria makes this scenario not at all unrealistic.

    The newly-minted “Bessarabians” are not trying very hard to conceal the fact that they are controlled by Russia. The conference participants received a greeting from Moscow, by Alik Vetrov, one of the founders of the “People’s Council” and a Russian anti-Ukrainian activist known in Odesa, who stated, “Together with you, I will continue fighting for the bright future of Bessarabia!” There were several more infamous Russian lapdogs on the video call, including the former “Foreign Minister” of Transnistria Vladimir Yastrebchak. (It should be noted that Yastrebchak and Vetrov had long been proclaimed personae non grata by other states in the region that are conscious of their national security – for example, Azerbaijan.)

    The “Bessarabians” also did not bother to hide the fact that the “draft law on the national and cultural autonomy of the Bessarabian Region” was written by people whose relation to Ukraine was tenuous at best. That paper slip is chock full of borrowed Russian words (e.g. the phrase listed in this Law translated as перелічені в цьому Законі [an amalgam of Russian and Ukrainian words] instead of перераховані в цьому Законі [correct Ukrainian translation]; the term aimed translated as направлених [Russian] instead of спрямованих [Ukrainian], etc.). If the Russian FSB [Security Service] lacks the wits and finances to pay a Ukrainian-speaking editor $10 to proofread their masterpiece – then I feel sorry for the degenerate agents of this Russian special services that operate under cover of freak shows like the “People’s Council of Bessarabia.”

    No-one should let themselves be fooled by “camouflage” stunts such as spreading the statement about a “purely cultural autonomy of Bessarabia as part of Ukraine.” The purpose of this project is to use the cover of language- and culture-related messages to carve a whole region out of our state, and subsequently turn it into a quasi-state formation, much like the neighboring Transnistria. And it’s painfully obvious whose rule it will be under.

    The fact that the “Bessarabians” (whose relation with another Russian project, the “LNR” [Luhansk People’s Republic] has been proven by the SBU [Security Service of Ukraine]) are listing tasks for the Verkhovna Rada [Parliament] of Ukraine in their “draft law” and are essentially trying to change the Constitution of Ukraine – that is, of course, a joke. But the real problem lies in the fact that this Russian initiative can actually receive support from certain demographics in the districts of the Odesa oblast listed in the “draft law” (areas that, according to Moscow’s design, should make up “Bessarabia”). The reason for that is simple – those districts are either partially or entirely outside the Ukrainian media field, and have no Ukrainian digital TV coverage (while the TV is the main source of information for the local residents), as the IR group has reported earlier. Instead, the locals spend years being brainwashed by Russian TV, broadcast from Transnistria, even though there is a technical capacity to rectify the situation (without significant costs to the state budget!). The IR group has access to relevant estimates made by professionals. But those are issues for the attention of our Ministry of Information Policy (I have already addressed a relevant query to Yuriy Stets [Minister of Information]).

    Thus, seeds of hatred and separatism sowed by the FSB may fall on very fertile soil in the Odesa oblast. With all ensuing consequences…

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    Shellings are again starting up this evening--five hotspots are being struck now.

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    A Russian army BMP-1, driven by a volunteer from wherever, is still a Russian army BMP-1.
    pic.twitter.com/NejNVDryDO

    There was a battle near #Novomihaylovka in the evening http://censor.net.ua/n336528

    SBU assures there are no 'people's republics' in Odesa region: The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) jointly w... http://bit.ly/1ddnSeV

    Ouch
    "President #Putin has given us a certain relevance"
    German officer steps into media trap
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDAy7bOrJzU … pic.twitter.com/vqSuC3o6wx

    Chechnya's Kadyrov Claims Tsarnaevs Were Framed; Changes Position from Previous Denunciation http://www.interpretermag.com/russia...-18-2015/#8391 … pic.twitter.com/n7UK9gOjzX

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    Outlaw said

    Sgt.Aleksandrov also says
    -his group of 14, goal:surveillance
    -he wasn't tortured
    -he is a contract soldier
    -there's another 1 Rus group
    He mentioned also quite many names of his unit. Head of this 14 man unit has captain rank. At the same time head of company has senior lieutenant rank. Unit has two sub-units. In 14 man unit there are 2 MG guys, 2 snipers, 1 explosives expert. His unit arrived to Ukraine in March. Their mission lasts 4-5 days and then they are replaced and have a rest. In Luhansk there are 6-8 units like his. Units are working independently. In contact with local rebels, but no joint action. Moving around in Urals, no IFV-s.
    Last edited by kaur; 05-18-2015 at 06:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaur View Post
    Outlaw said



    He mentioned also quite many names of his unit. Head of this 14 man unit has captain rank. At the same time head of company has senior lieutenant rank. Unit has two sub-units. In 14 man unit there are 2 MG guys, 2 snipers, 1 explosives expert. His unit arrived to Ukraine in March. Their mission lasts 4-5 days and then they are replaced and have a rest. In Luhansk there are 6-8 units like his. Units are working independently. In contact with local rebels, but no joint action. Moving around in Urals, no IFV-s.
    kaur--many thanks for the additional info as it does now tend to round out their unit composition as a armed recon, surveillance and sabotage unit.

    What surprises me though is the shelling of his unit by Russian artillery--it was Russian artillery not mercenary so they must have picked up the radio chatter of the ongoing fighting and someone was carrying GPS on them as artillery normally needs an accurate grid to strike accurately. The Sr. SGT was hit by a blast wave thus the hip injury.

    Since it was Russian artillery then in fact the Russian army has placed their fighting units close to the contact line but apparently hidden as no one on the social media side is "seeing" them.

    A SA-10 was seen via UAV in the open yesterday 5kms from the contact line near Mariupol.

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