Quote Originally Posted by slapout9 View Post
To me it's how many Surrender. How many surrendered in Gulf War 1 vs. How many were killed. When they start to surrender in mass I think you can say the Will to fight has truly been broken.

Which is why St. Carl said the goal is to disarm them. When people no longer have the Means to fight the Will to stop fighting usually follows.


Frederick the Great defeated the Saxons quickly in one of his wars, then proceeding to fight the Austrians. He absorbed many Saxon soldiers and officers into his own army, but soon learned that they deserted en masse.
Many Saxons later joined the Austrian army to continue the fight.

That's quite confusing; the will was only broken temporarily by disarming, but on the other hand there's the pro CvC argument that they only rejoined the fight once they were armed again.

It's doubtful whether they would have abstained from joining the Austrians if they had not got their muskets back, though. The new armament was likely more a means to defend themselves in the process of switching sides (defence against Frederick's light cavalry which also served as MP).